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His crime was just sex
Daily Journal ^ | April 18, 2003 | Bob Thomas

Posted on 04/18/2003 12:53:26 PM PDT by new cruelty

WASHINGTON -- Let's say you have a colleague, a gifted man with a troubled past, whose work you admire. Imagine that your talented co-worker gave a girl of 13 alcohol and drugs, instructed her to strip and join him in a hot tub and then -- despite her saying, "No, stop" -- had sex with her.

What if he left the country to avoid prison?

What if he not only admitted his crime but whined to a reporter that although America has a "wonderful" Constitution, it needs to get its "puritanism" under control?

Would you bestow upon him your profession's highest honor?

You might if you lived in Hollywood.

Perhaps 1977 seems like too long ago to matter.

Perhaps absence really does make the heart grow fonder.

Perhaps professional brilliance overshadows every unsavory thing an artist does personally.

Perhaps Hollywood is even more out of touch than the stars' Oscar get-ups suggest.

Admittedly, when a friend said, "You have to write about Roman Polanski winning Best Director -- it's outrageous!" -- I balked, even though I'd found Polanski's win for "The Pianist" over never-honored Martin Scorsese ("Gangs of New York") surprising.

But c'mon, Oscar is a joke. Everyone knows that Academy Awards are given to artists for turning in the year's best work -- and for their popularity, lengthy career achievement and past nominations. Oscar isn't a sports competition with clear winners, I shrugged -- it's opinion.

Then I read the grand jury testimony of Polanski's victim, Samantha Geimer, on www.thesmokinggun.com. In it, she said Polanski, then 43, first asked to take pictures of her for French Vogue. Transporting her to Jack Nicholson's home, he photographed her nude, gave her champagne and part of a quaalude, and performed "cuddliness" -- her childish term for oral sex -- on her before raping her.

Polanski, who now lives in France, couldn't retrieve his Oscar. Setting foot on U.S. soil would mean his immediate arrest. After pleading guilty to one felony count of having sex with a minor, the director jumped bail when it seemed a Superior Court judge might reject an agreed-upon "time served" deal.

Geimer, now nearly 40, wouldn't oppose Polanski's return. Though he "did something awful," she wrote in a Los Angeles Times article asking that "The Pianist" be judged on its own merits, she harbors "no hard feelings" for Polanski. "He is a stranger to me."

Maybe he is now. But back in 1977, he was like most rapists, two-thirds of whom know their victims. Silver Spring, Md., resident Lori S. Robinson was different -- she didn't know the two men who in 1995 raped her at gunpoint. No one was charged.

Robinson turned her horror into an instructive new book, "I Will Survive," which offers resources and advice to victims of sex crimes -- particularly black women, who are raped at a higher percentage than white women and who are less likely to report the attacks.

The author sees similarities between Polanski and singer R. Kelly, whose indictment in June on 21 counts of child pornography didn't keep his new album from instant-hit status. "People trivialize rape, period," Robinson suggests. "But stars are elevated to an almost godlike status."

Clearly, the public often views a performer's art as separate from his behavior. "But if your child is victimized, is art still just art?" asks Robinson. "Eighty percent of (rape victims) experience post-traumatic stress disorder, which is usually associated with war combatants.

"People just don't understand how devastating rape is."

Still, a standing ovation for a man who admitted having sex with a girl so young most people would forbid their 17-year-old sons to date her? Astounding.

I needed an artist's view. Deb Gottesman co-founded the Theatre Lab, Washington's largest theater training organization, whose Life Stories program helps disadvantaged people -- including prisoners -- transform their lives into stage and screen pieces. No wonder she's "a huge believer in second chances for those who've faced the consequences of their crimes."

Polanski hardly qualifies. Even a convicted murderer "who went through the penal system, repented and then won an Oscar" could deserve applause, Gottesman suggests. Polanski, however, "skirted this country's judicial system."

How can he deserve our country's highest directing honor?

Ironically, "The Pianist" eloquently portrays the horrors that can result when every human's inherent worth is ignored or denied -- even, presumably, that of nubile girls. Even if it was the year's best-directed movie, which is debatable, Gottesman wonders, "Why is Hollywood still giving (Polanski) this opportunity?"

Because his crime was "just sex," an act that nearly everyone enjoys and that -- unless weapons, bruises and/or a nun are involved -- many people have trouble envisioning as criminal.

But a 13-year-old can't be confused with a grown woman -- or even a mature teen. Physically, mentally and emotionally, she's a child. Sex with children cannot be condoned or -- without apology, regret or appropriate punishment -- forgiven.

No matter how well you direct.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: pedophilia; polanski; thepianist
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1 posted on 04/18/2003 12:53:26 PM PDT by new cruelty
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To: new cruelty
They weren't really applauding Polanski, they were indulging in the a bas les bourgeois that serves the artistic community to declare its superiority to the people who fund it. If raping a child is what it takes to show how different he (and they) are from us mere conventionally-moraled mortals, than raping a child is cool.
2 posted on 04/18/2003 12:59:24 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: new cruelty
Geeez, for the first three or four sentences I thought you were talking about Bill Clinton.
3 posted on 04/18/2003 1:00:48 PM PDT by rs79bm
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To: rs79bm
eerie.
4 posted on 04/18/2003 1:01:46 PM PDT by new cruelty
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To: new cruelty
Hollywood makes art so the culturally depraved have something to talk about !
5 posted on 04/18/2003 1:07:15 PM PDT by f.Christian (( Evolution is whatever lie you want it to be. ))
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To: new cruelty
Polanski, who now lives in France, couldn't retrieve his Oscar. Setting foot on U.S. soil would mean his immediate arrest.

Is under-age sex/rape not a crime in France? Or do we not have an extradition treaty with the cheese-eating surrender monkeys?

6 posted on 04/18/2003 1:07:39 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: new cruelty
This explains why the Left isn't morally outraged about Scott Ritter...or any other abomination for that matter. Bottom line: the vast majority of them are just soulless sacs of protoplasm.

No offense to protoplasm intended.

-Jay
7 posted on 04/18/2003 1:07:56 PM PDT by Jay D. Dyson (Terrorists of the world, RISE UP! [So I may more easily gun you down.])
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To: new cruelty
"Then I read the grand jury testimony of Polanski's victim, Samantha Geimer, on www.thesmokinggun.com. In it, she said Polanski, then 43, first asked to take pictures of her for French Vogue. Transporting her to Jack Nicholson's home, he photographed her nude, gave her champagne and part of a quaalude, and performed "cuddliness" -- her childish term for oral sex -- on her before raping her. "

The failure here, is no one has taught this child anything about personal values and integrity.
8 posted on 04/18/2003 1:08:50 PM PDT by Search4Truth (When a man lies, he murders part of the world.)
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To: NativeNewYorker
Is under-age sex/rape not a crime in France? Or do we not have an extradition treaty with the cheese-eating surrender monkeys?

I thought we had an extradition treaty with France...

...then again, I was also once told they were our allies.

Things change, I guess.

-Jay

9 posted on 04/18/2003 1:09:07 PM PDT by Jay D. Dyson (Terrorists of the world, RISE UP! [So I may more easily gun you down.])
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To: new cruelty
Polanski repeatedly referred to his victim as a "Lolita", and whined interminably about how unjust it would be for him to spend more than the three months he had to stay confined, after his arrest... A real nice guy; a Hollywood type of guy.
10 posted on 04/18/2003 1:13:45 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: Jay D. Dyson
I thought we had an extradition treaty with France...

We don't.

11 posted on 04/18/2003 1:14:50 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: Search4Truth
The failure here, is no one has taught this child anything about personal values and integrity.

It wasn't her fault. It was all his fault.

12 posted on 04/18/2003 1:17:14 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: rs79bm
"Better put some ice on that..."
13 posted on 04/18/2003 1:20:07 PM PDT by grobdriver
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To: new cruelty
Yuk. What a creep. May he stay in France.
14 posted on 04/18/2003 1:27:43 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: new cruelty
Hollywood is leftist.
Leftism rejects traditional morals and believes in a ruling elite that is exempt from laws and mores governing ordinary people like you and me.
Therefore, Hollywood has no problem excusing the rape of a child by one of their own "elite."

It's just as simple as that.

15 posted on 04/18/2003 1:30:15 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: new cruelty
And they booed Elia Kazan in 1999 because 40 years earlier he dared to stand up to the Hollywood lefties.
16 posted on 04/18/2003 1:31:15 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: new cruelty
I think the problem here is that people hear that Polanski "molested" or "raped" a 13 year-old and they think "It was statutory rape but probably consentual." No. Polanski forcibly raped the girl after getting her drunk and drugged and refused to stop when she asked him to. He also sodomized her. This isn't a Rob Lowe "I didn't know" type situation or a "she threw herself at me" situation. This is a grown man forcibly raping a 13 year-old girl against her will. That is what people need to know instead of the various ephemisms that often get tossed out when Polanski's case is discussed.
17 posted on 04/18/2003 1:48:30 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: new cruelty
Because his crime was "just sex," an act that nearly everyone enjoys and that -- unless weapons, bruises and/or a nun are involved -- many people have trouble envisioning as criminal.

That is an excellent point! But there is another, which should not be diminished. I doubt very much that, under similar circumstances, the Amer. Assoc. of Electrical Engineers, or Amer. Physics Society would even consider an award, no matter how deep the papers are. In most professions, from dentistry to science to be "professional" is an integral part. To be free from crime is a minimal requierment of being professional.

Thus, it is also the exceptional position into which we place Hollywood and other celebrities that explains the outcome. No matter how power-hungry, manipulative, and vulgar Madonna is, people --- most of whom where not teenagers --- ran to shell out $150 for a pornographic book. It does not matter that Sean Penn cannot even speak, we allow him to speak and be heard. Jack Nicholson said during the Clinton affair referring to him, "I trust the guy, because he f---s. I never trust a guy unless he f---s." It is hard to find a gutter with a higher lever stupidy, besides immorality. But his quotes get into the press all the times --- because we read them, no matter how empty they are.

So why would the Polansky case be any different?

18 posted on 04/18/2003 1:48:44 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: new cruelty
"Everyone knows that Academy Awards are given to artists for turning in the year's best work -- and for their popularity, lengthy career achievement and past nominations."

What needs to be added is that the academy award votes are ONLY by members of the screen actors guild. Not determined by the public nor in lots of cases by popularity. Only those that the studios, actors and other interested parties can lobby or pay to get their votes within the SAG. It's an inhouse thing yet these same people expect the public to bow, scrape, sigh, favor and watch their farce of presentations.

Roman Polanski took the 13 year old to Jack Nicholson's house. Did Nicholson participate? Wonder how Nicholson would feel if it happened to his child because ole Jacky has children now? Polanski is pedophile. If he ever returns, he should be arrested, sent to prison and the key to his release thrown away since he's escaped justice all these years.
19 posted on 04/18/2003 1:56:12 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: colorado tanker
"And they booed Elia Kazan..."

Yes! Kazan abandoned the left and named names. And therein lies the critical difference. If you stay on the left and turn state's evidence against a conservative, you're ok in Hollywood. (see post 15)

20 posted on 04/18/2003 1:59:47 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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