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Plans Under Way for Christianizing the Enemy
NewHouse News Service ^ | 3/26/03 | Mark O'Keefe

Posted on 04/18/2003 6:55:40 AM PDT by Incorrigible

Plans Under Way for Christianizing the Enemy

April 18, 2003

BY MARK O'KEEFE

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Two leading evangelical Christian missionary organizations said Tuesday that they have teams of workers poised to enter Iraq to address the physical and spiritual needs of a large Muslim population.

The Southern Baptist Convention, the country's largest Protestant denomination, and the Rev. Franklin Graham's Samaritan's Purse said workers are near the Iraq border in Jordan and are ready to go in as soon as it is safe. The relief and missionary work is certain to be closely watched because both Graham and the Southern Baptist Convention have been at the heart of controversial evangelical denunciations of Islam, the world's second largest religion.

Both organizations said their priority will be to provide food, shelter and other needs to Iraqis ravaged by recent war and years of neglect. But if the situation presents itself, they will also share their Christian faith in a country that's estimated to be 98 percent Muslim and about 1 percent Christian.

"We go where we have the opportunity to meet needs," said Ken Isaacs, international director of projects for Samaritan's Purse, located in Boone, N.C. "We do not deny the name of Christ. We believe in sharing him in deed and in word. We'll be who we are."

Mark Kelly, a spokesman for the Southern Baptists' International Mission Board, said $250,000 has already been spent to provide immediate needs, such as blankets and baby formula. Much more will follow, along with a more overt spiritual emphasis.

"Conversations about spiritual things will come about as people ask about our faith," said Kelly, based in Richmond, Va. "It's not going to be like what you might see in other countries where there's a preaching service held outside clinics and things like that."

Richard Cizik, vice president for governmental affairs of the National Association of Evangelicals, is urging caution for the two groups, as well as other evangelical organizations planning to go into Iraq.

"Evangelicals need to be sensitive to the circumstances of this country and its people," said Cizik, based in Washington, D.C. "If we are perceived as opportunists we only hurt our cause. If this is seen as religious freedom for Iraq by way of gunboat diplomacy, is that helpful? I don't think so. If that's the perception, we lose."

Graham, the son of legendary evangelist Billy Graham, has been less diplomatic about Islam than his father has been. Two months after the Sept. 11 attacks, Franklin Graham called Islam "a very evil and wicked religion" during an interview on NBC, the television network. In his book published last year, "The Name," Graham wrote that "The God of Islam is not the God of the Christian faith." He went on to say that "the two are different as lightness and darkness."

On the eve of the Southern Baptist Convention in St. Louis last year, the Rev. Jerry Vines, a former denomination president, told several thousand delegates that Islam's Allah is not the same as the God worshipped by Christians. "And I will tell you Allah is not Jehovah, either. Jehovah's not going to turn you into a terrorist," Vines said.

Widespread condemnation of those comments followed from other Protestant leaders as well as from Catholic and Jewish groups. The Graham and Vines statements even created a problem for President Bush, who has called Islam a "religion of peace."

Bush, an evangelical Christian himself, has close ties to both Franklin Graham, who gave a prayer at his inauguration, and Southern Baptists, who are among his most loyal political supporters.

Isaacs, who works for Franklin Graham, refused to comment about his boss' views of Islam, except to say, "most of Franklin's work is to the Muslim world and those are sincere acts of love, concern and compassion."

In a written statement, Graham said: "As Christians, we love the Iraqi people, and we are poised and ready to help meet their needs. Our prayers are with the innocent families of Iraq, just as they are with our brave soldiers and leaders."

Isaacs said Samaritan's Purse has assembled a team of nine Americans and Canadians that includes veterans of war-relief projects in Afghanistan, Kosovo, Rwanda and Somalia. The teams include a doctor, an engineer and a water specialist.

They will bring resources that include a system that can provide drinking water for up to 20,000 people, material to build temporary shelters for more than 4,000 families, packages of household items for 5,000 families, and kits designed to meet the general medical needs of 100,000 people for three months.

So far, there's no budget for the effort because it's so fluid, said Jeremy Blume, a Samaritan's Purse spokesman, but donors are being asked to help. A Southern Baptist fund-raising drive is under way to help underwrite the cost, Kelly said. Both groups said only private donations have funded their plans thus far, with no government assistance in the works.

Southern Baptists, representing a denomination of 16 million members, have workers in Jordan waiting to help refugees. But so far, few refugees have arrived, perhaps because it's still too difficult for much of the population to maneuver between warring militaries on their way to the border, Kelly said.

Baptist Men, a national organization devoted to providing disaster relief work, has promised to send volunteers from the United States "on a moment's notice," Kelly said.

As soon as they gain access to northern Iraq, teams will go, Kelly said, with plans of feeding up to 10,000 or more people a day.

"The hope is that as the war front moves and the situation in the outlying areas improves, we'll be able to send mobile teams in.

"Our understanding of relief ministries is that anytime you give a cup of cold water in the name of Jesus you've shared God's love in a real physical way. That also raises the question as to why you did that. When people ask you, you explain that it's because of the love of God that has been poured out into my life and I have a deep desire that you know that same love as well."

(Mark O'Keefe can be contacted at mark.okeefe@newhouse.com)

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: baptist; christian; evangelical; evangelism; graham; interimauthority; iraqifreedom
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To: Illbay
as that the rude folks

If you arent bashing jews or protestants or gays your swearing like some truckstop throttle jockey

Let the lurker decide whos rude

241 posted on 04/18/2003 1:52:28 PM PDT by Revelation 911 (Silencing of the Lambs (HHD, FRM, RFA, LTO, FO)
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To: Centurion2000
Name the last Christian on Christian war ... I promise you that I can find a more recent muslim on muslim war ... Christianity matured, islam did not.

True, but Christianity is 600 years older than Islam. I guarantee I wouldn't have to go back that far.

And by the way, if Britain had pulled out of Ireland after WWII, we would have seen a war to extinction between Catholics and Protestants in the last 50 years.

So9

242 posted on 04/18/2003 2:06:52 PM PDT by Servant of the Nine (We are the Hegemon. We can do anything we damned well please.)
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To: tracer; Illbay
OK, well its not illegal in Iraq. At least not while the Americans are there. Is the LDS Church going to send missionaries to the Muslims in Iraq?

BTW for the first 350 years of Church History it was illegal for Christians to proselytize. That didn't stop them. Why would it stop the "ONLY TRUE CHURCH"T.M. from doing that?

243 posted on 04/18/2003 2:31:56 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Words mean things. Some words are mean. Some words are things. Some things are words.)
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To: Wrigley
Semantics. Nobody expects it to be restored in this life. Remember, "we" didn't invent "it." It was ordained of God in Old Testament times...
244 posted on 04/18/2003 2:33:08 PM PDT by tracer (/b>)
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To: tracer
Jo Smith used it to satisfy is lust.
245 posted on 04/18/2003 2:40:09 PM PDT by Wrigley
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To: F16Fighter
Thanks for illustrating how none of you seem to be able to take any criticism. It doesnt matter if they held a gun to my head or not. It's freaking annoying when you have to cross the street to go out of your way just to avoid having someone try to shove tracks in your hand or ask you if you have a few minutes to save your soul. Get Real!

246 posted on 04/18/2003 3:21:13 PM PDT by Enemy Of The State
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To: Illbay
Franklin's group ought to be banned.

There are lots of people who support and agree with Billy and Franklin Graham, who also pay the taxes and serve in the military that liberated Iraq. I think the real danger to the world comes from the appeasers of Islamo-fascism. Appeasement didn't work on September 11, it won't work now. And that is especially true of appeasement that involves censoring what Iraqis may and may not hear so as not to upset the delicate sensibilities of Islamo-fascists.

247 posted on 04/18/2003 3:29:38 PM PDT by JoeSchem
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To: Lee Heggy
Sending in the Evangelical shock troops will be seen as an affront.

Doesn't this have resonance with the Opium Wars?
We are forcing a defeated country to accept sellers of
our own varieties of the  'opiate of the masses.'  
Britain just did it literally, is all.
248 posted on 04/18/2003 3:38:58 PM PDT by gcruse (The F word, N word, C word: We're well on our way to spelling 'France.')
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To: GirlShortstop
Well...there is a big difference between the non-fundamentalist traditional Islamic approach (religious toleration but a ban on evangelism) and an islamist approach. Such a traditional approach would respect religous rights but place a limit on spreading them. The best we can hope for is a system much like Israel which allows toleration but bans any attempt to change the status quo e.g. bans evangelism.

The missionaries you mention may be allowed in Iraq to distribute food, etc. but when the start spreading the idea of Christianity, they will be kicked out immediately. If you want to bet otherwise, I would be more than happy to take you up on it.

Finally, we disagree on another point. The future of Iraq should be for the Iraqis not U.S. paternalists and social engineers to determine. We should turn over authority immediately to an interim government and get the heck out! That is the American way of sovereignty and self-government, rather than empire.

249 posted on 04/18/2003 4:00:32 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Enemy Of The State
"Thanks for illustrating how none of you seem to be able to take any criticism. It doesnt matter if they held a gun to my head or not. It's freaking annoying when you have to cross the street to go out of your way just to avoid having someone try to shove tracks in your hand or ask you if you have a few minutes to save your soul. Get Real!"

Huh?? "Get real"??

Either you are engaging in hyperbole so massive in scale, that it makes Baghdad-Bob seem like he'd been understating the war, OR you have been in the Bermuda Triangle of a Jehovah's Witness/Evangelistic blitkreig.

250 posted on 04/18/2003 4:03:10 PM PDT by F16Fighter (Democrats -- The Party of Stalin and Chiraq)
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To: JoeSchem
I'm an admirer of the father.

I think the son is unfortunately lacking his father's prudence and judgement.
251 posted on 04/18/2003 4:15:15 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: Captain Kirk
Finally, we disagree on another point. The future of Iraq should be for the Iraqis not U.S. paternalists and social engineers to determine. We should turn over authority immediately to an interim government and get the heck out! That is the American way of sovereignty and self-government, rather than empire.

As I see it, when you disagree with my assessment of what the plans are for an Iraqi government, you are asserting that what Donald Rumsfeld has articulated as George Bush's plan for Iraq is wrong (see my above post).

WE have ousted the Iraqi government (regime), WE have a responsibility to help them reform a government; as I see it, WE have the right, not only the responsibility to put the fundamental rights forth as a requirement.

You may think you have the best plan all figured out, but I have a heckuva lot more faith in the brains and leadership in DC.... sorry.

252 posted on 04/18/2003 4:17:17 PM PDT by GirlShortstop
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To: Captain Kirk
The missionaries you mention may be allowed in Iraq to distribute food, etc. but when the start spreading the idea of Christianity, they will be kicked out immediately.

Source?
253 posted on 04/18/2003 4:28:57 PM PDT by GirlShortstop
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To: F16Fighter
Neither! It wasn't the Jehovas when I was stationed in Orlando, it was the Christians. They stood outside the gates to catch us coming in from happy hour on the weekends. Now it's on the corners at the University.

Granted, its not everywhere, but anywhere is annoying. If I want to hear about their "God" and what a "sinner" I am, I'll go to their church. Until then, I dont want to have it shoved in my face when Im walking down the street.

These "Evangelists" that are thinking about going in to Iraq to push their religion on the masses there are more than likely in for a huge unwelcoming crowd.
254 posted on 04/18/2003 4:44:16 PM PDT by Enemy Of The State
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To: Wrigley
Get real, and provide evidence if you can. Are you a mind reader of the dead who can divine the purported lust of those long dead?
255 posted on 04/18/2003 4:44:40 PM PDT by tracer (/b>)
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To: SoulStorms
It will be said that the rush to "Christianize" the Iraqis is proof that this was a crusade. It will be said that there is little difference between killing non-believers, and rushing in to preach after someone else has killed them.

Who cares what will be said. It **is** said that this war is for Iraq's oil. It **is** said that we simply want to occupy and take over Iraq. It **is** said that this war is becasue Bush couldn't be an effective diplomat. All of which are false. Simply becasue people will make false statements doesn't mean that one should run from them. It's not like we are having our military convert all of the Iraqis to Christianity or they will be shot. People are going there on their own, without government sponsorship, to spread the Word. That's not a bad thing.

256 posted on 04/18/2003 4:53:30 PM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: tracer; Revelation 911; drstevej; Alex Murphy; JesseShurun; Wrigley; CCWoody; P-Marlowe
Quotation: "I don't care how you bring 'em, just bring 'em young."

We've heard that about your "prophets."

257 posted on 04/18/2003 5:00:38 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD, FRM, RFA)
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
Well said.

People are going there on their own, without government sponsorship, to spread the Word. That's not a bad thing.

I sense others may disagree here... :-)

258 posted on 04/18/2003 5:04:42 PM PDT by k2blader (Pity people paralyzed in paradigms of political perfection.)
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To: P-Marlowe
Because the "ONLY TRUE CHURCH"T.M., as you so sarcastically call it, has as one of its Articles of Faith obedience to the law of the land, whether said land is one's own or a land in which one is a guest, as missionaries would be. "Crusades," "Inquisitions," and other violent methods are not how the Church has done and will do its work.

BTW, what is your religious affiliation? I'm not challenging you or declaring your obligation to do anything, but what has your church done to bless the lives of others? Is your church in the process of gathering several millions of dollars worth of relief aid in the form of money, food, clothing, medical supplies, blankets, etc. for those suffering in Iraq? And possibly non-proselyting (yes) humanitarian missionaries, perhaps someday including me and the skills with which the Lord has blessed me, to render direct assistance to "the Muslims in Iraq" who are our brothers and sisters?

The "message" of you and your compatriots here as regards the LDS faith seems to be largely if not entirely one of attack and the perpetuation, without evidence or apparent knowledge, of legends and falsehoods.

I find it curious that you and others harbor such obsession and bitterness, which seems to glaringly and instantaneously flare up when you read of any reference here to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. None of us "Mormons," with one misguided exception, has attacked you and your beliefs.

And why have you chosen to be the judge of anyone's faith? Not that it is certain to matter to me or anyone else -- beyond my professional interest in what appears to be sociopathic behavior and the possibility of being a friend to you.

I wish you well and hope that you will have a blessed Easter weekend -- and that we all can focus on what the Savior did for us all...

259 posted on 04/18/2003 5:21:16 PM PDT by tracer (/b>)
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To: tracer
How many wives did Joe Smith have?

Prima facia case for lust.
260 posted on 04/18/2003 5:26:19 PM PDT by Wrigley
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