Posted on 04/18/2003 6:53:53 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
The rebels would only accept the help of blacks -- if they were slaves -- this, up until the very end of the war, when the rebel congress passed a bill to enlist black troops, after it was too late.
Walt
sorry, wrong answer!
the PACSA was NEVER more than a few thousand (during most of the war it numbered about 3,000 men total- after the war was won, there was a plan to have about 20-25,000 regulars & a large reserve force of state, local & privately-raised troops.of course the plan was never completed, as we lost our war for independence.) men- mostly senior NCOs & senior commissioned officers.
the 4th MO Partisan Rangers, led by COL Quantrell, were MO state militia & were never part of the PACSA.
free dixie,sw
BTW, have you suddenly morphed into a "valley girl"?
free dixie,sw
Not in this case. You "col of medical troops" was a civilian doctor in no way associated with the government.
And you somehow morphed Antietam into Gettysburg, and you somehow morphed Dr. Steiner's 3,000 negroes of 64,000 total into "20/25%".
You are a pathetic joke.
Walt
Would this be credible?? Capt. Heysinger was a Union Officer
Wednesday, September 10: At 4 o'clock this morning the Rebel army began to move from our town, Jackson's force taking the advance. The movement continued until 8 o'clock P.M., occupying 16 hours. The most liberal calculation could not give them more than 64,000 men. Over 3,000 Negroes must be included in the number. . . . They had arms, rifles, muskets, sabers, bowie-knives, dirks, etc. They were supplied, in many instances, with knapsacks, haversacks, canteens, etc., and they were manifestly an integral portion of the Southern Confederacy army. They were seen riding on horses and mules, driving wagons, riding on caissons, in ambulances, with the staff of generals and promiscuously mixed up with all the Rebel horde.
Capt. Isaac Heysinger
the following independent nations recognized the CSA: Apache,Cherokee, Chickasaw,Choctaw,Comanche,Creek,Dinea (Navaho),Lakota, Mohawk & Seminole.
all of these Indian nations sent ambassadors (the Cherokee embassy is still standing;it is now a private home in Richmond.)to Richmond;all but the Lakota & Dinea sent TROOPS to fight against the damnyankees.
but of course, you damnyankees never accepted our Indian nations as anything except groups to exploit.
there were a large number of European nations who were ready to recognise the CSA, as soon as the war was won, including Denmark, several German states,South Africa, France & Great Britain.
free dixie,sw
Capt. Isaac Heysinger
I don't know who this guy is, but this text was in a phamplet written and published in 1862 by a Dr. Lewis Steiner.
See this link:
http://www.edinborough.com/Life/AtFront/Steiner.htm
Where'd you get your info? SCV or League of the South? Hate groups don't make real objective sources.
Walt
Though you might have found an example otherwise, in my limited checking stand watie capitalizes "Confederate" but not "yankee". 104
How very odd.
Walt
the WBTS was caused by slavery in precisely the same way that fish cause floods.
for 90% of southerners (at least), the war was about just ONE main cause: freedom for dixie.
for those of us who favor LIBERTY, it still is.
free dixie,sw
the US Archives states that he was a COL(surgeon) of the union army.
as usual, you are twisting the truth to suit your agenda, scalawag.go read the records as i have, and stop posting revisionist PROPAGANDA.
free dixie,sw
it's a southron thing.
free dixie,sw
Anyone with even a slight knowledge of the ACW knows that Lee's army at Antietam was only 40-45,000. No matter who wrote this (and Dr. Steiner definitely did), he's not very credible.
Neither are you.
Walt
It doesn't say any such thing. I usually don't respond to you at all, but you are even more over the top ludicrous today than usual.
Walt
free dixie,sw
Slave ownership devolved on 50% of whites in MS, LA and SC and on 1/3 of southerners elsewhere. There were more slave owners in the south than there were real property owners in the north.
Walt
what are you drinking this morning? must be strong!
as the VAST majority of southerners were POOR yeoman farmers, with total gross assets of less than $5,000 including home,livestock & their land, your claim is both ill-informed & LAUGHABLE! the average rebel soldier in the ranks had total gross assets of less than $50 & net assets of less than $ 25.
Shelby Foote said that perhaps 10% of southerners could have AFFORDED to buy a slave, even if they wanted to own one.
your silly, hatefilled,ignortant,off-point, foolish posts are a source of merriment to all but the most ignorant members of the forum AND the WORST of the south-haters.
free dixie,sw
Nuff said. BTW, haven't you tired of posting that same old piece of crap from the WSJ? Everytime this issue comes up this is the first thing you go to. And McPherson's data is not only unchecked, it's suspect by his very leanings. He throws out anything that disagrees with his POV even though the paper could be staring him in the face. What? All these documents stating the existence and bravery of blacks in the Confederate Army were forged by Southerners? That's a good conspiracy theory there Walt.
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