Ian whatshisface is lying through his teeth.
There isn't *anybody* who has corroborated what McNutty claims - and your refusal to read the work done on this subject, the extensive comparison of visual imagery in the way of photos showing debris, insulation and glass from the many broken windows to what the "captured IR" (that's "Infra-Red") on video shows is just straight-away, sheer declared ignorance.
The duration of the 'plume' after a rifle is fired, that should have lasted less than a single video frame was examined for each 'claimed' case of gunfire BUT this duration lasted for many frames, the OBVIOUS abscence of "warm rifle barrels" (their heat signature showing up on video) was notably absent in each case of these cases as well -
- NOTHING repeat !!NOTHING!! supports McNutty's contentions of 'gunfire' in the IR video except McNutty!
Those were the conclusions of both Ian Goddard and Vector Data Systems and several other experts in the field of IR.
THERE WAS ample oportunity for *other* sources of that IR however. Such as the very warm engine of the CEV in that one scene - I have seen the video my self on that one - at it does indeed appear at the REAR of that CEV reflecting off debris on teh ground - those same scenes that show NO human beings and the CEV (the 'tank' as you guys put it) BACKING over positions OCCUPIED by so-called 'shooters' in very close quaters is absolutely preposterous - it's also NOT the case as visible still photos show.
Here is the research performed by Vector Data Systems (of course, you won't download it NOR will you examine so why do I even bother?) on the IR imagery:
http://www.gospelcom.net/apologeticsindex/pdf/vds.pdf
I also noted in your reply that you responded with the usual knee-jerk supposition that the other party is simply 'lying' yet you provide nothing (BUT your afore-mentioned CONJECTURE) as 'supporing argument'.
*That* doesn't wash.
(a) FLIR Testing and Analysis. Virtually the only evidence cited by those claiming government agents fired shots into the complex on April 19, 1993, is the FLIR videos recorded by the FBI Nightstalker aircraft from approximately 10:42 a.m. to 12:41 p.m. on that day. In fact, however, this evidence strongly supports the conclusion that no agent of the United States fired a shot on April 19.The FLIR tapes show 57 flashes, emanating principally from alleged Davidian positions inside or on top of the complex. Eighteen of the flashes occur on the back side of the complex, with some occurring around government vehicles that were operating near the complex. During the past three years, representatives of the Davidians and several independent experts retained by the media and Congress have concluded that gunfire could have caused or did cause these flashes. The FBI and its experts have claimed that the flashes are reflections or “glint” coming from debris scattered in and around the complex.
The Office of Special Counsel retained two teams of experts to analyze the FLIR tapes from April 19. Working with the United States district court judge in the civil litigation brought by some of the Davidians and their families against the United States government, the Office of Special Counsel and its expert, Vector Data Systems (U.K.) Ltd., conducted a field test of FLIR technology at Fort Hood, Texas on March 19, 2000. The purpose of the test was to identify the thermal signature, if any, that gunfire and debris would leave on a FLIR recording.
The Office of Special Counsel conducted the test under a protocol agreed to and signed by both the attorneys and experts for the government and the attorneys and experts for the Davidians and their families. The protocol identified the FLIR equipment, the weapons, and the other conditions that would best approximate the scene at Waco in 1993.
Based on a detailed analysis of the shape, duration and location of the 57 flashes noted on the 1993 FLIR tapes, and a comparison of those flashes with flashes recorded on the March 2000 FLIR test tape, Vector Data Systems (U.K.) Ltd., concluded with certainty that each of the flashes noted on the 1993 tapes resulted from a reflection off debris on or around the complex. These conclusions are supported by color photographs which show the reflective debris at the exact location of many of the flashes noted on the 1993 tapes.
Mrs. Lena Klasén, a second independent expert retained by the Office of Special Counsel, concluded that thermal activity caused by human movement or motion did not exist near or around the area of the flashes noted on the FLIR tapes. She further concluded that photographs taken during the tear gas insertion show no people at or near the points from which the flashes emanated. Mrs. Klasén also performed a three-dimensional analysis of the reflection geometry existing at the complex on April 19, 1993. This analysis accounted for the Nightstalker’s movement, the position of the FLIR sensor, and the changing angle of the sun. Based on this analysis, Klasén, like Vector, concluded that the flashes on the 1993 tapes were from debris. The FLIR test and the expert analyses prove conclusively that the FLIR tapes do not evidence gunfire directed at the Davidians from government positions. Copies of the Reports of the FLIR experts retained by the Office of Special Counsel are attached hereto as Appendices H and I.