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1 posted on 04/16/2003 8:19:44 PM PDT by nunya bidness
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To: nunya bidness
Long read but sounds worth the time! Bump for finishing later.
2 posted on 04/16/2003 8:29:48 PM PDT by SeattleTiger
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To: nunya bidness
So that's where you've been these last few months...writing this book you just posted. lol
4 posted on 04/16/2003 8:43:14 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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5 posted on 04/16/2003 8:44:51 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: nunya bidness

wow, what a tome.

"China, where the Manchus used brutality to subjugate Tibet in the north, Taiwan in the south, and the Muslim provinces of the west ..." ooops, needs a geography lesson.
8 posted on 04/16/2003 9:07:33 PM PDT by WOSG (All Hail The Free Republic of Iraq! God Bless our Troops!)
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To: nunya bidness
That was a great read. I'm sure he's right, history has been written in the last 30 days and it will change the face of warfare forever.

I just hope the Iraqi people will be able to hold on to what has been offered to them.

14 posted on 04/16/2003 9:37:18 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: nunya bidness
Oh boy! Red meat! But more than I can digest tonight.

Question, is this course worth two or three credits, and when is the final?

Just kidding!

17 posted on 04/16/2003 10:29:39 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: nunya bidness
Thanks for posting.
22 posted on 04/17/2003 2:54:19 AM PDT by happygrl (Praying without ceasing)
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To: nunya bidness
Ouch! My brain hurts. Great piece, but how 'bout something from the Onion next time.
29 posted on 04/17/2003 11:10:30 PM PDT by Deb (Democrats stole my green sweater.)
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bump to you for a nice historical perspective
33 posted on 04/22/2003 10:50:18 PM PDT by Heuristic Hiker
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To: nunya bidness; Fzob
Bump for later read
35 posted on 04/23/2003 2:36:01 AM PDT by JZoback (Don't have such an open mind, your brain falls out)
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First of two interesting historical essays from nunya bidness.

If you want on or off the Western Civilzation Military History ping list, let me know.
39 posted on 07/25/2003 8:11:43 AM PDT by Sparta (Check out my new blog, http://bayousage.blogspot.com)
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To: nunya bidness; Sparta; Destro; FITZ; knighthawk; Sabertooth
Bookmark for later read!
41 posted on 07/25/2003 8:17:38 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: nunya bidness; Dark Wing
The author's scholarship leads much to be desired. He overlooks critical facts which could support the conclusion he wants, in addition to spinning facts which are contrary to his conclusion. Here's an example of each:

a) Positive fact overlooked. The Teutons' rage at Roman slaughter of women and children resulted in the destruction of several Roman legions at the hands of Armanius (Hermann the German) when the latter changed sides. Varus was KIA, and the Empire's frontier stabilized on the Rhine instead of the Elbe.

b) Negative fact spun. Sherman's "march to the sea" gutted Confederate armed resistance in the Civil War, and had nothing to do with Southern resistance to Reconstruction. The latter was the Southern ruling class trying to regain power. The former was so widely admitted, at the time and since, that Finnegan's spin here is obvious.

Whatever merit his conclusion might have is badly tainted by his game-playing with facts.
46 posted on 07/25/2003 10:32:16 AM PDT by Thud
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To: nunya bidness
After September 11 the government pursued the terrorists more as criminals and less as soldiers

I was under the impression that exactly the opposite is true. In my readings on this subject it would appear that before 9-11 the FBI, INS, Customs...etc were more concered with collecting evidence to be used in a courtroom.
47 posted on 07/25/2003 9:13:16 PM PDT by Valin (America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy.)
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To: nunya bidness
Any form of warfare is terrorism. War is terifying.

A major component of modern day terrorism that you are ommiting from your definition is that terrorists are not governments. We never claimed that Sadam Hussein was a terrorist, but rather that he may have supported terrorists.

Recognized governments do not commit acts of terror, they commit acts of war. Even if they use the same tactics as terrorists, they are held to a different degree of accountability and may be deposed or overthrown, something that is traditionally impossible to do with terrorists, who are more fluid and not confined by borders and bounderies.

48 posted on 07/26/2003 4:26:33 AM PDT by NeonKnight
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To: nunya bidness
Wow...

John Lewis Gaddis, in his A Grand Strategy of Transformation, discusses the source of terrorism: "...it's becoming clear now that poverty wasn't what caused a group of middle-class and reasonably well-educated Middle Easterners to fly three airplanes into buildings and another into the ground. It was, rather, resentments growing out of the absence of representative institutions in their own societies, so that the only outlet for political dissidence was religious fanaticism" and concluded that "Terrorism—and by implication the authoritarianism that breeds it—must become as obsolete as slavery, piracy, or genocide: "behavior that no respectable government can condone or support and that all must oppose."

Mr. Gaddis, the Robert A. Lovett professor of military and naval history at Yale University, agrees with Caleb Carr when he clearly identifies the source of terrorism as oppressive, totalitarian societies.

The Bolsheviks under Lenin, introduced into the world the concept of justified murder in the name of a cause, and from those beginnings, terrorism has grown into the primary tool of the extremist against his perceived "oppressors".

What common grounds do communism and fundamentalist Islam share?

A tad complicated perhaps, but nevertheless common ground in their ultimate goal of power over the people living within their grasps. Communism is an atheistic society that removes the personal relationship between the individual and his God, replacing Him with the State, as it transforms the State into the source of all Hope, shelter, and safety.

Fundamentalist Islam's theocratic totalitarianism interrupts the individual's personal relationship with his God, and sets the State as the intermediary between the individual and his God, thus creating a situation where all governmental dictates are considered to be "God's will".

Russia's total war on the Chechen people has created a veritable breeding grounds for terrorists; it has failed to achieve any results other than the continuation and escalation of the violence thus far, and will continue to do so. And as the people of Chechnya realize that their fate is death at the hands of Russian troops, or Russian bombs, they will engage in escalating acts of violence themselves. Additionally, it has created an opportunity for Middle Eastern State-sponsored fundamentalist Islamic terrorists groups to inject themselves into a very old conflict, create a new front for their war on the West, and inject religious fanaticism into the Chechen conflict.

In contrast, the US-led War in Iraq is seeing the terrorists turning on their own people; they've actually begun assassinating their own clerics, making the entire "war between faiths" idea a farce, and exposing Islamic terrorism as little more than geopolitically based warfare, waged by States via the use of shadow armies using religious fanaticism as a recruitment tool, and a weapon.

Good job on this, I truly enjoyed reading it.

49 posted on 09/23/2004 8:51:31 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez ( Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?)
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