Cable's War Coverage Suggests a New 'Fox Effect' on Television

NY Times ^ | April 16, 2003 | JIM RUTENBERG

[livius]

a neutral tone.

The Times really believe the media were "neutral?" They still just don't get it, do they.

[Illbay]

Michael Savage wouldn't know "sedition, or treason" if it bit him in the ***.

[narvi]

I listen to NPR in the car because its the only news on radio, and watch some CNN because one of the local broadcast stations use it for "national news". FNC is my main station at home. One thing I've notice during the Iraq thing is the mainstream media kept getting wrong time after time despite perfectly clear evidence, Fox kept getting it right. Now the "mainstream" is losing out, and like steriotypical liberals, they're crying & whining.

[sheilah]

FOX is all about objectivity. Want to know about non-objectivity? Snuggle down with Mona Charon and Useful Idiots.Sheilah

[Kip Lange]

Further development of the three-pronged attack gearing up: Attack Fox, attack talk radio, attack the Internet (any place where conservatives are allowed to speak freely). Guess the NY Times got the talking points memo passed to 'em from Robbins? Or Daschle? ;-)

Gird thy loins. It's going to get worse. Hit pieces will increase in volume to a feverish level as we get closer to the elections. And this time, we're one of the targets...

[The Real Eddie01]

Fox has brought prominence to a new sort of TV journalism that casts aside traditional notions of objectivity,

That being anything Anti-American is considered traditional objectivity or the blatent hypocracy traditional objectivity fosters when reporting on Democrats (good) Vs. Republicans (bad).

...holds contempt for dissent

Contempt for dissent being defined as requiring facts and verifiable sources to back up the dissenting opinion. i.e. eliminating the free pass on dangerous liberal propaganda.

...and eschews the skepticism of government at mainstream journalism's core.

"eschews the skepticism of government" being the ability to look at America objectively and report on the good things America is doing in this world. The sacrafices on foreign soil America has suffered to protect its citizens, free others and secure world peace.

Eddie01 "The 1st Amendment has them standing in the spotlight of truth with nowhere to run."

[speedy]

You're right, they don't get it at all, and that is why they are losing their grip. If they are this blind to reality, I don't see how they can prevail. Even as recently as 15 years ago, the left had an almost total monopoly on information flow -- no internet, no Fox News, talk radio in its infancy -- the movement is all in our direction, and it is fun watching them die a slow, painful death.

[Kip Lange]

DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THESE PEOPLE. Remember how many of us thought Hillary would be laughed off the election trail...now she's on the Senate Armed Service Committee.

The depth of hate these people have for us, is, by our very nature, UNFATHOMABLE to us. Do NOT let your guard down, even for a second, to give yourself (and all of us) a well-deserved pat on the back. The Dems will do ANYTHING to get back into power. They're addicted to it.

[The Real Eddie01]

Guess the NY Times got the talking points memo passed to 'em from Robbins? Or Daschle? ;-)

Try the UN. This is a global effort.

[RJayneJ]

He was being sarcastic, right?

I was thinking the same thing. Is this supposed to be an objective news story? Straight down the middle, right?

[Dog Gone]

The NY Times believes that their liberal slant is America, and they can't quite understand why real America is looking for something else.

Fox didn't really start it. The internet did. And Free Republic was the leader in exposing the liberal media.

Unbelievably, MSNBC is starting to get it. The NY Times might eventually, although I doubt it. CNN will go bankrupt before it gets it.

[Kip Lange]

Try the UN. This is a global effort.

Point taken. We sill need to fight it tooth and nail, though. This is the emerging strategy of the left for 2004. I am going to continue to shout it as loud as I can so everybody can hear me. :-) THEY WILL ATTACK FNC, TALK RADIO, AND THE INTERNET. Over. And over. And over again.

We must hold firm.

[Kip Lange]

As Dick Morris has pointed out, people who populate the Internet tend to be conservative, in large numbers. Possibly because those using the Internet as a forum for debate are more intelligent...possibly because we've been shut out from debate everywhere else and we have few places left to turn.

But they are *coming*. I am telling you, they are *coming*. Founding DU -- which, btw, I do NOT believe has a growing base, despite the #s they posts (the quality and amount of debate there is more than laugable) -- was a start. Now expect more hit pieces on FR. More hit pieces on Rush and talk radio. More hit pieces on Fox.

Global liberal effort or national liberal effort, this is their strategy.

[Kip Lange]

"Senate Armed *Services" -- sorry

[Dog Gone]

At this point, hit pieces on Fox and FR do us more good than harm. People will want to see what is being villified.

Then they can make up their own minds.

[speedy]

I concur with you on the depth of their hatred of us and determination to cling to power. I am totally in favor of driving the stake through their hearts. But I also like to take time to enjoy the helpless rage they are feeling right now -- they aren't used to this, and they are looking more than usually idiotic. I just like pouring a little salt in the wounds while we have the chance.

[harpo11]

"I'm a huge believer in the forces of the market and the audience's ability to make choices among various channels," Mr. Heyward of CBS said. "What I would not like to see happen is legitimate debate stifled, or journalists' skepticism, heated journalistic inquiry, somehow dampened by a flock of Fox imitators."

Mr. Heyward do you want to see and hear "legitimate debate", tune into Fox News Sunday with host Tony Snow, you will be treated to Brit Hume debating and scoring every time he speaks in response to some of the silliest liberal notions, while adding just the right measure of "journalist skepticism" whenever Juan or Mara utter leftist inanities.

If you were very smart and wanted to see CBS hit high ratings perhaps you'd want to be joining the flock of successful Fox's.

[LasVegasMac]

Got one of those on both my vehicles.

Within the last three days I have had tons of comments - all positive.

Funny, I've had the stickers on for - ? - about a year now.

Joe / Jane Citizen is getting the point - I love it.

LVM

[Pharmboy]

It would do the NY Times staff a world of good if they occasionally left the Upper West Side of Manhattan and went to dinner parties in Cedar Rapids, IA, Cincinnati, OH, Birmingham, AL, West Memphis, AR, Jackson, MS, Lafayette, LA, Portsmouth, NH, Boise, ID, Moline, IL, Fresno, CA, Winslow, AZ, Winchester, VA, Cobbleskill, NY, etc., etc., and not just amongst demonrat fundraisers in those places either, but a good cross section of the population. They would eat better, too.

It would be similar phenomenon to embedding journalists with the 3rd Infantry Division...

[antaresequity]

saying it sought better political balance in its programming

Are we to imply that MSNBC just admitted they were/are liberal biased?