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Cable's War Coverage Suggests a New 'Fox Effect' on Television
NY Times ^ | April 16, 2003 | JIM RUTENBERG

Posted on 04/16/2003 5:59:35 PM PDT by Pharmboy

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To: freedom4me
That's the same reason I'm for it. We are of one mind on this issue.
101 posted on 04/16/2003 10:10:22 PM PDT by Kip Lange (The Khaki Pants of Freedom)
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To: Babu
It's laziness. It's always easy to take the cheap shots, the easy-one-liners, etc. More than just Savage lapsing into that on the right.

I speak from experience...I made a decision a long time ago to tone down my rhetoric and get the blue out of my writing (don't ask me where I write, cuz I can't answer :p), and it's tough. It's always tempting to rant. But what good does a rant do, except for the choir? It's not going to change anybody's mind, perception, or even make them think. The goal is to get writers out there who are so good you read them even if you disagree with them (same with TV pundits). Anyway, all that being said, it's hard to get yourself out of the "ranthole", as it were, once you put yourself in there, but he should at least be trying to claw up the walls to APPROACH intellectual debate. ;-)
102 posted on 04/16/2003 10:15:32 PM PDT by Kip Lange (The Khaki Pants of Freedom)
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To: Kip Lange
I think you're right, M. Savage has lapsed into the "art of the rant and the cheap shot". He calls just about every public figure names, even conservatives! I wonder if anyone pleases him for more than 5 minutes. Basically he is what he claims he isn't, a "shock jock". And it appears to me that his recent rapid success with his book, TV show and all has swollen his brain to the point where sometimes I wonder if he has to calm himself down just to get his noggin through a doorway. I criticize his behavior because I do feel he has a great mind, but then . . . "a mind is a terrible thing to waste"
103 posted on 04/16/2003 10:27:35 PM PDT by Babu
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To: Pharmboy
They are having a fit because of the fact that we now have a choice. That drives the socialists absolutely crazy. They are angry that any view other than their own is allowed. (For example, listen to Tim Robbins.). That's, in part, why they create all sorts of things that serve to limit speech (political correctness, hate speech, etc.).

The conservatives who for years were forced to watch CNN now have moved to Fox. The majority of CNN's viewers were probably always more conservative than it was, and now they are finally realizing that fact.

104 posted on 04/16/2003 10:28:20 PM PDT by Fraulein (Will the real Slim Shady please stand up?)
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To: Fraulein
For example, listen to Tim Robbins

Side note: How long do you think he worked on the "brilliant" "19th Century Fox" remark? I bet coming up with that one taxed his poor brain to the limit (and I bet he thought he was REALLY funny, too...poor man. :p).

As for the rest of your post, yep, bingo. I'd also add that these are Fabian Socialists -- they can't believe we'd listen to "common rabble". ;-)

105 posted on 04/16/2003 10:49:15 PM PDT by Kip Lange (The Khaki Pants of Freedom)
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To: Babu
Or (now, I love the guy, so no flames :p) if you're Dan Quayle: "The mind is a terrible thing to...lose...or...that is...to lose one's mind...is very wasteful". ;-)

(poor guy, he really got pilloried, but man, did he have a knack for foot-in-mouth disease...)
106 posted on 04/16/2003 10:51:28 PM PDT by Kip Lange (The Khaki Pants of Freedom)
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To: Babu
He's on the record as saying he's NOT a shock jock?

Bah. He just lost more points with me. :-(
107 posted on 04/16/2003 10:53:16 PM PDT by Kip Lange (The Khaki Pants of Freedom)
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To: Dog Gone; handy
Unbelievably, MSNBC is starting to get it.

Yes, I must admit this has probably been one of the most remarkable outcomes of the war!

108 posted on 04/17/2003 6:02:52 AM PDT by livius (Let slip the cats of conjecture!)
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To: narvi
...but....but.....Mike would like you to play The Bandit, so we can enjoy their extensive 34 song playlist! He likes hearing "Whole Lotta Love " seven times in eight hours. Angel would like you to play more K-Buena so he can pick up some more gutter Spanish to impress the obese divorcees at L and J's. Big John would like a triple meat Whataburger and a diet drink to wash it down with. Oh, and 4 Zebra Cakes for dessert. Me? I'm good "widdit"......it's all good........quit staring at my food!
109 posted on 04/17/2003 5:03:33 PM PDT by gueroloco
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To: CheneyChick
No they don't get it...mebbe they'll figger it out when they're on the Early Bird Special line somewhere in Broward County in 2017...
110 posted on 04/17/2003 8:09:51 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to)
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To: Kip Lange
I'm not disagreeing with anything you say, just saying maybe you should save your anger for the REAL j**koffs, like, say, Michael Moore.

An idiot is an idiot no matter what his political strip. I wasn't aware that Michael Moore had a Talk Radio or TV show. When is it on the air?

The current crop of blow-dried loud-mouthed entertainers who are using their claimed conservatism to line their pockets with payola are eventually going to destroy the conservative movement. Each new clown that comes along knows that the fastest route to riches is by being the loudest, most virulent talking head on the scene. Eventually one of two things will happen. The public will either begin to equate all conservatives to those blow-dried fools and turn against conservatism entirely or a particuraly articulate con-artist with exceptional skills of persuasion will arrive on the scene to reap havoc.

We don't need entertainers with sky-high salaries to sell conservatism, they can only damage us later.

111 posted on 04/17/2003 8:29:32 PM PDT by FreeLibertarian (You live and learn. Or you don't live long.)
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To: FreeLibertarian
An idiot is an idiot no matter what his political strip. I wasn't aware that Michael Moore had a Talk Radio or TV show. When is it on the air?

I, too, agree that idiots aren't limited by their...strips...uhm...man, you just put an image of Michael Moore and Michael Savage stripping in my head, not fun. :-) (stripe, I know, honest typo, couldn't resist the joke).

Nah, Michael Moore doesn't have a TV show (well, he did get a wee bit of air time at the Academy Awards), just an Oscar.

I see you don't bother to save your vitriol for me, either. ;-) Heh. However, surprise, I'm going to have to back up and agree with you.

The current crop of blow-dried loud-mouthed entertainers who are using their claimed conservatism to line their pockets with payola are eventually going to destroy the conservative movement.

I worry about that myself. Everybody wants to be Rush, but...only Rush is Rush, and charming enough to brush off criticism. The race to become conservative pundit of the week IS worrisome. It leads to op-ed pieces or TV appearances/shows that preach ONLY to the choir. This is pointless. We don't need any more convincing that we're right. We *do* need people who can write or speak effectively enough so that a liberal will listen to them EVEN if they disagree with them. Which is not the case with Savage -- a moderate is going to switch him off right away and file him away under "right-wing nut" in his head. Personally, I don't think he's a nut, but I'm part of the choir; Savage's job is NOT to convince me that his viewpoint is right, since I agree with him (mostly), but to convince the people who DISAGREE with him that he's right. Which he's not good at doing.

On the whole though, I'm just not as ticked as you about Savage, sorry. Too much outrage at too many other things; I only have time for so much, y'know? :-) This ranks rather low on my radar.

112 posted on 04/17/2003 8:50:43 PM PDT by Kip Lange (The Khaki Pants of Freedom)
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