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US tax returns to India causing stir
THE TIMES OF INDIA ^ | APRIL 16, 2003 | CHIDANAND RAJGHATTA

Posted on 04/16/2003 5:04:31 PM PDT by John Lenin

WASHINGTON: Millions of Americans sweated it out on Tuesday, struggling to meet the deadline - April 15 - for filing their annual tax returns as accountants and post offices stayed open late to accommodate the laggards. Many will be hoping the Indians have lived up to their reputation for sound number-crunching.

 

In keeping with the great outsourcing trend that has swept across American businesses, thousands of US tax returns are now being processed in India, a development that has led to quite a stir in the accounting community. Numbers are hard to pin down, but according to Kishore Mirchandani, president of Outsource Partners International, the firm that claims to have triggered the development, more than 10,000 returns went to India for scrutiny this year.

 

The accounting firm Ernst and Young alone is believed to have forwarded 7500 American tax returns to its subsidiary in India after transferring a tax partner familiar with US tax laws there. Scores of other smaller accounting firms have also sent returns numbering hundreds to India after a pilot study last year showed encouraging results.

 

"The business is still in its infancy, but we are looking at over 100,000 returns going to India this coming year," says Mirchandani, whose firm has a 300-person operation in Bangalore and is looking to expand because of the growing demand. Several traditional American firms are also lining up to send returns to India, after pilot projects showed significant reductions in costs and turn-around times.

 

"More and more firms are jumping on the bandwagon after seeing the results. They seem very satisfied with the quality, not to speak of the speed and cost factors," says Bill Carlino, Editor-in-Chief of the journal Accounting Today, which has tracked the trend over the past year.

 

Expectedly, not everyone is thrilled with the outsourcing of what some regard as sensitive financial information. In the latest issue, the magazine Practical Accountant ran a column by a New York accounting professor questioning the trend on grounds of security and job loss to Americans.

 

"If you were to stop by any downtown skyscraper where Ernst & Young has an office, I guarantee that you could not just walk to the elevators and go up to the company's offices. You would be stopped by at least one security officer before you got anywhere near the elevator bank," wrote Prof Lloyd Caroll, head of the accounting department at Manhattan Borough Community College. "Yet the company does not appear to be troubled by the notion of putting taxpayer security in peril by sending returns out of the United States."

 

"The very notion of transmitting confidential tax data - from Social Security and employer identification numbers to financial information - to any foreign country, even Canada, borders on the reprehensible at best, and is treasonous at worst," Caroll fumed.

 

But accounting firms say security is a non-issue. What they are moving to India are only images and the original data remains with the US firm. The software used by the firms is also web-enabled and is accessed by the Indian subsidiary through a server in US.

 

Firms also reported a 50 to 60 per cent cost reduction, besides improved scrutiny because they are able to hire better qualified people. In the US, simple returns are often viewed by junior staff who are not CPAs.

 

Although the pilot studies of last year involved sending simple low end returns, some firms such as Toronto's Horwath Ornstein are now said to be sending high-end returns. In turn, firms are also posting Indian-American CPAs qualified in US tax laws to India

to oversee the work.

 

"The accounting profession in India itself has improved a great deal and quality should not be a problem," says Ram Ganesan, a Maryland-based CPA, who practices in the United States but sees outsourcing as an encouraging trend.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Free Republic; Government
KEYWORDS: accounting; ey; india; outsourcing
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To: John Lenin
It's a dreadful circumstance for our country. First manufacturing, then information technology, engineering and architecture, and now finance - our wealth is being diminished to build China, India, and Mexico. This is the express goal of the World Trade Organization, to level out the disparity in wealth among nations, and we should like it, because we are reducing world poverty.

risa

141 posted on 04/18/2003 8:14:08 PM PDT by Risa
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To: Billy_bob_bob
>>We have been betrayed.<<

Yes we have by a whole line of Presidents, beginning with George Bush, Sr. and also by the people we elected to make our laws, liberals and republicans.

One wonders why we send young men off to fight a war -- for what?

risa

142 posted on 04/18/2003 8:16:45 PM PDT by Risa
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
>>It's time to change our leaders. They truly are self serving and this is the proof. <<

Absolutely -- I wonder if Tom Tancredo would run on the republican ticket for President next term. He seems to be the only leader with the courage to stand up for the American people and demand immigration reform and a stronger border protection.

President Bush is still hell-bent on providing amnesty to the millons of illegals in our country, and to integrating the U.S. economy with the third-world to the maximum degree possible--which means things will only get worse for us.


risa
143 posted on 04/18/2003 8:28:01 PM PDT by Risa
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To: henderson field
>>You see, with immigration at record levels, that accelerates the price of land - <<

Yes, with the massive population influx and a population growth rate that exceeds that of India, U.S. land is expected to grow scarce and thus very valuable--the gold of the 21st century. Buy as much you can now.

risa
144 posted on 04/18/2003 8:58:56 PM PDT by Risa
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To: Black Agnes
It's very simple...we become a nation of unemployed consultants.

We now make nothing, manufacture nothing, farms are being sold off to the big agribusinesses...nothing to make and nothing to eat soon makes Uncle Sammy a sap with nothing...Isn't it nice that we have sold our souls and country to the lowest foreign bidder?

Shoes...nah
Electronics...nah
Textiles...nah
Apparrel...nah
Toys...you've got to be kidding
Sporting goods...gonzo
Autos...furgetaboutit
Airline Industry...Teetering

Hollywood and Music...about all that is left and it stinks!
Tourism...who wants to come here, we are a bunch if infidels
145 posted on 04/19/2003 5:23:07 AM PDT by Napoleon Solo
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To: Napoleon Solo
We do actually make something .... GUNS.

Look for a NICE custom pistol .... the best work is made in America bar none.

Besides that I can't think of anything else.

146 posted on 04/22/2003 12:46:52 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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To: Stoner
bump!
147 posted on 04/22/2003 1:27:05 PM PDT by m18436572
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To: John Lenin; B4Ranch
no, it sounds like a terrible idea.

Help me make shure I understand this correctly its done by CPA's not the IRS, right?

148 posted on 05/18/2003 5:44:59 PM PDT by Pete-R-Bilt (I wouldn't have spent a year in college, if it weren't for my horse...)
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