Advocates want same-day voter registration in N.C.

Durham Herald-Sun (Durham, NC) ^ | April 16, 2003 | The Associated Press

[Vinnie]

Voters would have to show a pictured identification and sign an affidavit swearing to their residency.

Residency?? How about whether they are citizens.

The dims are looking for a warm body to pull the lever( punch a chad).

Not only is this a non-flyer, the 'motor voter' law must be recinded

[lurky]

line up a bunch of homeless,

If they're homeless, then they're probably not likely to have an "affidavit of residency", methinks. Not that I have any clue what an "affidavit of residency" is...

[lurky]

This does sound very susceptible for fraud, but I'm all for increased voter participation (can anybody connect to stats on participation by state?)...so how about making Election Day a holiday so that citizens have no excuse not to vote? Just thought I'd throw that in...

[Sacajaweau]

And then you drive 2 miles down the road and submit another ID, and drive 2 miles and submit another ID etc..

ID's are just to easy to get these days. 5 votes times 200 people = 1000 votes, enough to overturn a local election in many cases.

[Right Wing Professor]

In Germany, though, you have to register with the local police whenever you change address. Americans would never tolerate that level of oversight.

[cricket]

"If I lived there, my view on it - HELL NO!"

. . .a 'hell no' bump. . .

[Michael81Dus]

konaice, it is an expression of arrogance to say that other countries should adopt your system. Your system doesn´t look efficient.

Of course lots of people have two or more residences, but we have something we call "main residence". That´s the place where he mostly stays and that is registered in his ID card. In that city/town he may vote. If he doesn´t want to vote there, he has to change his main residence. Elections can not be manipulated by that. Our ID cards are safe, and we don´t have these problems to identify somebody with his social insurance number or drivers license.

[Michael81Dus]

No, not at the local police- but at the "citizen office". Of course the state has a right to know where its citizen live. Our ID cards are safe and efficient, the state can send election informations to that address. We don´t need our drivers licenses/social insurance numbers to identify somebody. And that´s in fact an advantage compared to the US. One card (ID card) and with that you can travel through the EU and easily identified. I don´t feel observed by the state.

[Right Wing Professor]

Of course the state has a right to know where its citizen live.

Rights belong to the people, not the state. I don´t feel observed by the state.

Of course you don't.

By the way, you should be a bit more careful about using the term 'European'. Continental Europeans are far easier with the idea of national ID cards than residents of the British Isles. I can go where I want in Ireland or England and carry no ID at all; in fact, back when I lived there, I never carried identifying documents.

[konaice]

"konaice, it is an expression of arrogance to say that other countries should adopt your system. Your system doesn´t look efficient"

Arrogant or not, I'm tired of Euros telling us how their system is sooooo much better than ours. (How come it isn't arrogant for THEM to tell US this???). When their Democracy has survived as long as ours they can lecture us.

Show me one other country that holds elections for 250 million people spread across 5 timezones and posts the results the same night in all but the tightest race.

Efficiency is not the standard by which these things are judged. Accuracy is. (But I also challange your statement about efficiency. There's simply no basis for such an in-efficiency claim).

[konaice]

"Of course the state has a right to know where its citizen live. "

You see, thats where you just don't understand America.

We are not "the state's citizens". The state belongs to the citizens. The state has only the rights we grant it.

We can not be compelled to register our official or temporary residence.

You just don't get it do you? You probably never will.

[TheLion]

Thanks for the great post and thank-you Kuksool for the ping!

Looks like everyone around here gets it! Anything the Democrats do in the name of helping people to vote is a smokescreen to allow more voter fraud. They couldn't actually be elected in many places if they didn't practice fraud. To take control back from them, we must get involved at the local level.

Our once great Republic is being eaten from the inside out by insidious Rats, determined to cheat, commit fraud or anything else to get elected and remain in power.

We run a great thread here and it is called Freepers Against Vote Fraud....started and run by our very own sweetliberty.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/798132/posts

I invite all to come over and help us out: We can make our efforts count. Let me know if you would like to be on or off of my ping list.

We will be more active shortly....since the war is not taking all our attention. We can now get back to the war at home.

[sweetliberty]

"We will be more active shortly....since the war is not taking all our attention. We can now get back to the war at home."

The war, and work! Arrrggghhhh!!!!!! How are you tonight? Some things never change huh? I guess there are some things you can always depend on...Rats doing what they do. I don't think I can handle getting any angrier than I already am!!!!!!

[TheLion]

I'm doing fine...a little worn out by all the late hours following the war but hanging in there. Sounds like you battle all day at work! You need some TLC.

The Rats have been scurrying around unnoticed since our attention has been diverted. Guess we will have to get out the rat traps!

I had a crown fall off a back molar....damn, that is not fun. Those things are not permanent. It was like biting into a rock!..Oh well, back to the dentist.

[sweetliberty]

"You need some TLC."

[MattAMiller]

We had this on the ballot in Ca in the last go-around. Fortunately it was soundly beaten. They ran a radio ad detailing the benifits of this proposition, which included allowing more uneducated people to vote. Isn't that special? I wonder why it lost.

[MattAMiller]

so how about making Election Day a holiday so that citizens have no excuse not to vote?

Voting ought to be difficult. If it's a pain it tends to filter out the uninformed.

[BnBlFlag]

Insanity!

[Phantom Lord]

Lion,

put me on your vote fraud ping list.

[fieldmarshaldj]

(With apologies to mhking)