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To: WhiskeyPapa
[Walt quoting nolu chan out of context] He did not, however, call an extra session of Congress. He issued money, he declared war, he suspended habeas corpus, it was an absolute Constitutional dictatorship. There was not even a Congress in session for six weeks.

[Walt] Well, that's all wrong. President Lincoln DID call a special secession of Congress to meet July 4.

[712 nolu chan returned to context] When Abraham Lincoln was elected and inaugurated, he didn't have a Congress for the first six weeks. He did not, however, call an extra session of Congress.

Lincoln's first inaugural address was given March 4, 1861.

Do the arithmetic Walt.

722 posted on 05/01/2003 1:16:53 PM PDT by nolu chan
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To: nolu chan
Lincoln DID call a special secession of Congress.

You made a false statement, and you don't seem to have a really good grasp of these events. You seem to be P/O'd at FDR, and you've transferred that angst back to poor old Father Abraham.

You said a while back that the EP freed no slaves -- that Lincoln "freed" slaves where he had no power and left slaves alone where he did have power. This is often seen, and always wrong. Anyone who read a survey history of the war would know that. Now you say that President Lincoln didn't declare war. That same survey or general history of the war that you never read would have told you that President Lincoln's position was that no state could get out of the Union and that secession ordinances were null and void. That is what he said in his inaugural address.

You don't seem to know the history.

Go read a good single volume history of the war and then get back to me.

Walt

724 posted on 05/01/2003 1:29:11 PM PDT by WhiskeyPapa (Be copy now to men of grosser blood and teach them how to war!)
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To: nolu chan
He did not, however, call an extra session of Congress. He issued money, he declared war, he suspended habeas corpus, it was an absolute Constitutional dictatorship. There was not even a Congress in session for six weeks.

Well, that's all wrong. President Lincoln DID call a special secession of Congress to meet July 4.

President Lincoln never declared war, or asked for a declaration. The Supreme Court ruled in 1862 that it was impossible to declare war on one of the states.

Issue money? When?

He suspended HC. So what?

You don't seem to have addressed these statements. Care to try?

759 posted on 05/02/2003 6:22:01 AM PDT by WhiskeyPapa (Be copy now to men of grosser blood and teach them how to war!)
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