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Marines free 123 from Iraq hellhole
Straits Times ^ | 4-16-03 | Derwin Pereira

Posted on 04/15/2003 11:41:05 PM PDT by petuniasevan

Marines free 123 from Iraq hellhole

By Derwin Pereira

FOR three days, American tanks have been shelling a military intelligence building in the posh Al-Khathamia area in west Baghdad.

The dozen or so tanks are not here to pound intransigent fighters but to break down concrete beams and steel, to reach bunkers deep underground at the Al-Istikhbarat Al-'Askariya facility.


The Marines found 123 prisoners, including five women, barely alive in an underground warren of cells and torture chambers.

Being trapped underground probably kept them safe from the bombing of Baghdad by the coalition.

Severely emaciated, some had survived by eating the scabs off their sores. All the men had beards down to their waists, said onlookers.

Most looked absolutely dazed when they emerged, said Mr Sadoun Mohamed, 37, who lives in the area.

'They had not seen sunlight for a long time,' he said. 'They kept blinking and covering their faces.' He said they were taken to the Saddam Hospital for treatment.

Their names were posted on the walls of the Al-Hajabehia Mosque in west Baghdad, as were names of some 40 others known to have been executed or murdered in prison.

Hundreds of anxious locals wait for word of their family, relatives and friends, some of whom were taken away more than 10 years ago.

Outside Al-Istikhbarat Al-'Askariya, Mr Sadeq Al Saeed, 24, a construction worker, has been waiting sleepless for the last 36 hours. He said he had heard the facility had five levels below ground.

He said his father, an Iraqi army captain, was killed in 1991 during the first Gulf War, and his cousins Amer and Jasem and some 50 others were picked out by the secret police for chanting anti-Saddam slogans during the funeral procession.

'That was the last I saw of them,' he said.

'In the night, people raided their houses, blindfolded them and took them away.'

He hopes against hope that the Marines will be able to find his cousins, who were brought here to be interrogated.

This hellhole is believed to be one of many for Iraq's political prisoners. Thousands may still be behind bars though the regime released many criminals from prisons before the war.

The United States soldiers at Al-Istikhbarat Al-'Askariya would not say what they were doing there. Their tanks blocked the entrance.

This place could be part of the labyrinth of underground facilities which might still shelter regime members.

Under one palace, a German-designed 1,900 sq m bunker was built at a cost of US$90 million (S$160 million) with luxurious accommodation for the Iraqi President, his family, their bodyguards and staff.

More than 24 bunkers were identified 12 years ago. There may be more now, located under schools, hospitals, even mosques, and linked together.

The security police, or Da'irat Al-Mukhabbarat Al-'Amma; Iraqi Intelligence Service; and military intelligence, also built cells and tunnels underground.

Taxi driver Hathem Ejam, 36, said Mr Saddam's older son Uday, also used them for his harem discards.

Relaying widely-believed rumours, he said: 'He would pick any young girl he liked from the street, rape her, shave her head bald and then get his guards to dump her in an underground cell.'


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atrocity; baghdad; dungeons; iraq; marines; prisoners; saddam; underground
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To: lawgirl
The reason they are posted are twofold- we don't need to waste the bandwidth, and it consolidates the commentary to one thread for those of us interested in the item.

This is why it's important to, first post an article with its title entact so people can find it if they are searching, and second, that people actually do a search before they post.

I understand the reasons. But it is overused. We've all seen the multiple multiple threads when some issue or news item is hot. These definately need to be pulled and I certainly agree people should post with original headline.

But to pull the thread in question is another matter. Pulling it would effectively end discussion of this topic as the other thread, wherever it is, can not be found, did not get enough activity, was posted too late for anyone to notice it and it dropped out of rotation.

I understand what you are saying but the "Already been posted alerts" are in my opinion used more often than is necessary. Not disagreeing with you entirely, just trying to be a balancing influence here.

61 posted on 04/17/2003 1:13:15 PM PDT by MissBaby
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To: petuniasevan
I want photos of these poor souls, anyone have any?
62 posted on 04/17/2003 1:15:23 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Twinkie
This article doesn't seem ligit for some reason.
If it were true, surely the media would already have
it on non-stop for the past couple of days. I bit
at this and even related it to my husband. Why would
anyone want to post a fake article? Can someone speak
to this one way or the other? This would be BIG news
if true and even the mainstream media wouldn't keep
mum.

Twinkie


and Anita Broadrick's story wasn't? Didn't you read about eh Supremes recently deciding that the "media" didn't have to tell the truth?

63 posted on 04/17/2003 1:34:58 PM PDT by DeathfromBelow
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To: twigs
'Buried alive in a concrete grave' .
64 posted on 04/17/2003 1:38:54 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: RedWhiteBlue
Gee, I thought it was a rhetorical or satirical question.

Of course, I don't consider the Singapore Straits Times a legit source. I don't trust anything from the NYT without corroboration either.

I thought I may that perfectly clear last night in post number #48.

Show me a picture and interview some survivors.
65 posted on 04/17/2003 2:52:29 PM PDT by KingKongCobra
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To: KingKongCobra
Gee, I thought it was a rhetorical or satirical question.

My but aren't you the congenial one! Someone piss in your cornflakes this morning?

BTW, the first sentance in the above paragraph is an example of SATIRE. The second sentance is an example of a RHETORICAL QUESTION. ;)

Peace, dude. We're on the same side.

BTW, I only go back to threads if someone bothers to address their reply to me. I asked you the question in reply #29, and you gave your opinion in reply #48 to ElGato, so I was not flagged to the fact that you had answered the question. However, since you answered the question when ElGato asked it, that pretty much blows your claim that you thought it was satirical or rhetorical.

66 posted on 04/17/2003 7:29:16 PM PDT by RedWhiteBlue
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To: RedWhiteBlue
Hey, I don't want to be argumentative. But really, when you said something like..

"You don't consider the Strait Times a legit source?"

I truly thought you'd left off the /sarcasm tag. I had no reason to reply. I never thought you were serious.

I replied to ElGato because it was clear he believed this story.

So, anyway, have a nice weekend. This thread is long dead. Catch you later.
67 posted on 04/17/2003 7:43:32 PM PDT by KingKongCobra
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To: aristeides
Buried alive in a concrete grave

Thank you. What a nightmare. I am SO glad these people--at least most of these people--are now freed from this monster. I hope we get to the people in this story in time. I can't help but wonder if Capt. Speicher could be there.

68 posted on 04/18/2003 6:24:47 AM PDT by twigs
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To: week 71
Hey EZ, good to hear from you. Its as if the left does not want to hear any of these stories. The left is wrong, wronmg, wrong and in fact, in the case of CNN, lies about reporting on it for 12 years.
69 posted on 04/18/2003 11:23:08 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: petuniasevan
All leftists in this country should view this stuff. Absolutely sickening.
70 posted on 04/25/2003 3:23:20 PM PDT by jjm2111
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