Pentagon won't yield to Muslims on Graham

Washington Times ^ | 4/16/03 | Robert Stacy McCain

[kattracks]

The Defense Department has no plan to rescind its invitation to the Rev. Franklin Graham to speak at Good Friday services at the Pentagon, despite Muslim concerns over the evangelist's labeling of Islam as "a very evil and wicked religion."

[Illbay]

Again, this is a case in point.

Name for me the Muslims in the Pentagon that are targetting Franklin Graham for death.

"Some" <> "All"

I should think this would be simple enough even for YOU to undedrstand.

[Prairie Pubbie]

Good Friday, of course, is the sacred remembrance of Jesus ultimate sacrifice and perfect atonement. Are we to permit a trio of Muslims to veto the speaker preferred by the Christian believers on this holy day? And do we really suppose that the Muslim believers would be open and amenable to a trio of Christians influencing/vetoing a Muslim speaker in a comparable situation on their holiest of days? The whole premise of that is untenable! The argument would probably be the hypothetical situation in which the chosen Muslim speaker is a radical Islamicist, but Franklin Graham is hardly the Christian equivalent of that position! Christians celebrating Good Friday should be allowed to hear this wonderful Bible teacher! And the Muslims who object should be allowed to voice their dissent! God bless America!

[Illbay]

Stating that an entire religion of One Billion people is an "evil and wicked religion" based on the wicked acts of a few is NOT "reasoned opinion." Graham reminds me of the idiots at Second Baptist Church here in Houston, who caused a great deal of ill-will and anger because they held a "rally" in the parking lot of their new mega-church building (the pastor makes $200,000 a year).

They held large signs and banners proclaiming that "Hinduism is a religion of the devil," and such. When Hindus in the community--many of whom live in the SAME NEIGHBORHOOD as the church building--protested, and decried this intolerant and intolerable exhibition of pointless stupidity, the Second Baptist folks all responded as you do: "How can you say this is intolerant? We have just looked at the truth. We are not disrespecting these people, just their religion," blahblahblah.

I mean, what is the point? It's just idiocy.

[kkindt]

Islam is based on the writings in the book written by Mohammed. Mohammed was not a carpenter. He was a warrior. The book he wrote and I have read teaches about a god called allah who is not the same as the Heavenly Father the Lord Jesus Christ has taught us about. Graham is correct in drawing attention to the fact that the source of Islam is the pen of a warrior. The source of Christianity is the blood of a carpenter who claimed to be God in the flesh dying for the sins of sinners. Whereas Mohammed called upon his soldiers and followers to take up the sword to defend allah, the Lord Jesus called upon his followers to put away the sword with respect to defending Him. He does not need human beings to kill for Him and His command to us is to love our enemies and do good to those who persecute us. However, Mohammed wrote about a tax to be imposed upon non-Muslims called the jaziya - a tax of humiliation. I noticed that the many of the Shiites in Iraq are demanding Islamic law be the law of their new regime. If they do as the Taliban did in Afganistan and are faithful to the teaching of Mohammed in the Koran then the nature of this god allah will be manifested in the humiliation tax. Americans need to read the Koran. ONE READING of it will demonstrate to anyone that what Graham has said is the truth. "Moderate" Muslims are simply Muslims who either have not read the Koran or dismiss some of its teachings and are "liberal" in their views which means they want to be considered Muslims though they do not abide by the Koran in all its aspects.
IF ISLAM became the majority religion in America or any nation the Koran requires true believers to impose the jaziya tax. DO not believe this? Simply read the Koran.

[Cultural Jihad]

Naw, it's a portrait of the armchair general slobs who are smearing the conservative cause and thwarting our national efforts at regime change in the Middle East by their mindless anti-Islam nuke-Mecca rhetoric, thinking they know better than President Bush on how to wage this war against terror.

[browardchad]

France may of seen the light too...

 

Not exactly. This national Islamic Council was an attempt by French politicians to win the vote of Islamics by giving them more influence in the government: "It is precisely because we recognize the right of Islam to sit at the table of the republic that we will not accept any deviation," said the Interior Minister, calling it "the official Islam for France."

 

The NY Slimes writes that "The other mainstream religions have long had similar councils," but neglects to mention that these "councils" were formed by the religions themselves, whereas the Muslim Council was formed by the government of France. 

 

Now the French government is dismayed at the predictable result: extremists were elected.  France is playing with fire by trying to placate Muslims at home and abroad, and they will definitely get burned.

 

There is some grim satisfaction in reading the complaints of Cardinal Jean-Marie Lustiger, who was "shocked" by George W. Bush's calls for prayers for a U.S. victory in the Iraq war, now moaning that the French government was making Islam a "state religion."  Quel dommage!

[LuisBasco]

Islam is the enemy!

You said it! How any American can be swayed by this evil religion is beyond me. The only converts are convicted felons, boxers who have had their skulls full of mush shaken up too often and deluded, imbecilic youth.

[OldFriend]

AWESOME......first big step in the demise of PC

[Kevin Curry]

This is Rumsfeld standing tough. He could easily quash this, and hasn't. Good on him.

[Cultural Jihad]

Apparently there are a lot of things beyond you.

[Kevin Curry]

Nice picture of Cultural Jihad . . .

Careful now. You really don't anyone to post your photo, do you? I certainly don't want anyone to post your photo. Have mercy, please.

[TLBSHOW]

islam would be peace if as Ann Coulter said they didn't kill people every chance they get.

[Kevin Curry]

Got bored hanging with the snivelling losers over at LP, did you?

[Rummyfan]

Religion of Peace alert!

Muslim clerics call for Franklin Graham's death. Where is the condemnation from CAIR and the AMC?

Franklin Graham invited to speak at the Pentagon on Good Friday. Muslims are upset.

Ibrahim Hooper and CAIR need to have a cup of STFU just like the Hollywodd idiots. We are not buying your sh** anymore!

[BADROTOFINGER]

Stating that an entire religion of One Billion people is an "evil and wicked religion" based on the wicked acts of a few is NOT "reasoned opinion."

Then please prove it. I have read Mr. Graham's comments, and checked about half of his claims (I do have to work for a living, after all), and found them to be factual. I have read large portions of the Koran, and found it to be schizophrenic (sp?); one page with some beautiful and life-affirming words, then the next with vile hatred of the 'non-believers'. And many calls for action from both sides, some action good, and some just plain evil. You probably think that I am just some redneck clymer, but reasoned opinion is just that, reasoned opinion. If it is simply emotionally charged religious bigotry, please point out the factual errors in Mr. Graham's words. I have looked and found none, but my work in that area is admittedly, incomplete.

Graham reminds me of the idiots at Second Baptist Church here in Houston, who caused a great deal of ill-will...blah, blah, blah, and, and, and...

Again, you change the subject and compare Graham to what apparently are real bigots, and then claim them to be one and the same. Allow me to explain something to you, mainly the 'straw man' arguement I made earlier.

A straw-man arguement is when you change what one with an opposing opinion says in order to make it something against which you have an arguement. You build a 'straw man', or a fake to represent that arguement which you have been called upon to engage in. Then you do everything that you can to disguise this straw man as the arguement that you have been called upon to engage. Then you gleefully smash it with no resistance (it is after all, a sham, and not capable of defense, since you created it for your own purposes), then boast about the superiority of your own arguement, without actually having to prove it. That was the second time on this thread that you have done so.

Like I said before, if you could distill your arguement to disproving Graham's facts and exposing flaws in his logic, you would do much better in the arguement. But that is much more difficult than knocking down rickety old scarecrows...JFK

[TLBSHOW]

I was being fair and posted the link in #29 :>)

[LuisBasco]

What a great point!

[LuisBasco]

Apparently there are a lot of things beyond you.

Winding up in hell for worshipping satan isn't one of them.

[LuisBasco]

Got bored hanging with the snivelling losers over at LP, did you?

Do you occasionally drop into the nether world to see what's cooking?