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Iraqi defeat jolts Russian military
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | April 16, 2003 | Fred Weir

Posted on 04/15/2003 5:52:59 PM PDT by Dubya

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DUTY: Draftees await medical checkups in Stavropol this month. Miserable conditions in the Army make it increasingly hard for Russia to round up conscripts.

1 posted on 04/15/2003 5:52:59 PM PDT by Dubya
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2 posted on 04/15/2003 5:54:09 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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"They are retreating on all fronts. Their military effort is a subject of laughter throughout the world."
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3 posted on 04/15/2003 5:54:49 PM PDT by COURAGE
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4 posted on 04/15/2003 5:57:09 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Become a Monthly Donor to Free Republic. Please?)
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To: Dubya
the obsolete structure of the Russian armed forces has to be urgently changed," says Vladimir Dvorkin

Why? Who do they plan to fight?

5 posted on 04/15/2003 5:58:05 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Dubya
First Afghanistan, now Iraq, the Rewskies are all a lot of hot air.
6 posted on 04/15/2003 5:58:14 PM PDT by Liberals are Evil Socialists!
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To: COURAGE
I hate it that the Russians now know just how much they suck militarily.
7 posted on 04/15/2003 5:58:20 PM PDT by demkicker (I wanna kick some commie butt)
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To: Dubya
Interesting...

Russia has lost what...8000 troops now trying to subdue Grozny, a city one TENTH the size of Baghdad?

And they did so without fighting under the constraints of world opinion or constant journalistic access.

Tsk tsk...

The Russian military sucks. It's always sucked, and until they completely revamp their order of battle, philosophy, and unit structure, they will continue to suck.

Their engineers make some GREAT equipment considering their technology level, but a gun in the hands of one untrained in its use is as dangerous to the wielder as it is to the intended victim.
8 posted on 04/15/2003 5:59:10 PM PDT by Retrofire (Let's roll!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
LOL.

Didn't the muslims do them in once already?
9 posted on 04/15/2003 5:59:18 PM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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Thanks for the info.
10 posted on 04/15/2003 5:59:54 PM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: COURAGE
Yes it is. They are a joke.
11 posted on 04/15/2003 6:00:59 PM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: Dubya
"They think we are retarded - they are retarded."
Mohammed Saeed Sahhaf

12 posted on 04/15/2003 6:01:43 PM PDT by COURAGE
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To: Dubya
What is crucial is air superiority. Russians have in the past built some pretty good aircraft, but they no longer have the money to do so. Once your air cover is gone, you are a sitting duck.
13 posted on 04/15/2003 6:02:18 PM PDT by thucydides
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14 posted on 04/15/2003 6:02:19 PM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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We are very lucky that Russia has no major enemies at the moment...

Wouldn't be too sure about that, chief. You've got Muslim extremists to the south, chicoms to the east and, God help you, Uncle Sam if you support our enemies. You are fortunate indeed to have the French to the west.

15 posted on 04/15/2003 6:02:47 PM PDT by Zebra
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"I think this is very laughable for a Superpower to be so cheap to drop inside Iraq such poor things and they are printed in Kuwait''
Mohammed Saeed Sahhaf

16 posted on 04/15/2003 6:03:09 PM PDT by COURAGE
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To: Dubya
I actually meant it somewhat seriously. I suppose they have their security concerns, but really, who are they war-gaming against? I don't see them threatened by anyone.
17 posted on 04/15/2003 6:05:42 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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Thanks for the info.

I stole it.

18 posted on 04/15/2003 6:06:28 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Become a Monthly Donor to Free Republic. Please?)
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To: thucydides
air supremacy is important, but Russia and other oppressive societies cannot adopt our military model becasue their people do not live free. We can distribute command and employ initiative because our warriors are free people.
19 posted on 04/15/2003 6:07:21 PM PDT by Blueflag
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"As a result of the Iraq war and accusations of illegal Russian arms deliveries, applications for Russian weapons have soared," Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov said last week.

I'm reassured.

20 posted on 04/15/2003 6:07:27 PM PDT by billorites (Freepo ergo sum)
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