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To: Dubya
Interesting...

Russia has lost what...8000 troops now trying to subdue Grozny, a city one TENTH the size of Baghdad?

And they did so without fighting under the constraints of world opinion or constant journalistic access.

Tsk tsk...

The Russian military sucks. It's always sucked, and until they completely revamp their order of battle, philosophy, and unit structure, they will continue to suck.

Their engineers make some GREAT equipment considering their technology level, but a gun in the hands of one untrained in its use is as dangerous to the wielder as it is to the intended victim.
8 posted on 04/15/2003 5:59:10 PM PDT by Retrofire (Let's roll!)
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To: Retrofire
The Russian military sucks. It's always sucked, and until they completely revamp their order of battle, philosophy, and unit structure, they will continue to suck.

It will be hard to do so long as they have an authoritarian society. They always try to reverse engineer our cababilities, but we always stay ahead.

24 posted on 04/15/2003 6:09:38 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Rest in pieces Saddam!)
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To: Retrofire
Thanks for this info.
36 posted on 04/15/2003 6:20:24 PM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: Retrofire
Its their culture.

Even if Russia had all the wiz bang gadgetry we did, they would still lose.

Freedom fighters trump Socialist conscripts every time.
63 posted on 04/15/2003 7:16:48 PM PDT by antaresequity (...)
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To: Retrofire
Russia has lost what...8000 troops now trying to subdue Grozny, a city one TENTH the size of Baghdad? And they did so without fighting under the constraints of world opinion or constant journalistic access.

Very cogent points.

74 posted on 04/15/2003 9:25:20 PM PDT by Diddley (Powell; “The only amount of land we have ever asked for in return is enough to bury our dead".)
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To: Retrofire
The Russian military sucks. It's always sucked, and until they completely revamp their order of battle, philosophy, and unit structure, they will continue to suck.

The only reason they rolled back the Third Reicht is that the Germans ran out of bullets.

Russians seemed to reinvent the "human wave" method of battle.
81 posted on 04/16/2003 10:34:49 AM PDT by Rate_Determining_Step (The US Military! Draining the Swam of Terrorism since 2001)
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