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Second least. Clinton beats him, hands down. He never would have taken on Afghanistan or Iraq. He is a coward, as measured by the way he treats others, especially women. Clinton reminds me of the Iraqis who used women as a shield to protect themselves.
Clinton doesn't count in this context, since he was not really a 'wartime' president -- or at least, nobody thought we were at war at the time. 9/11 gave us the necessary hindsight to help us realize our mistake, but Clinton was already out of office by then.
Good line.
Awesome.
"I would not wish to fight the United States — either militarily, politically, or culturally. For every threat, our history teaches us that Americans offer not just a rejoinder, but the specter of a devastating answer of a magnitude almost inconceivable to those now chanting and threatening in the streets of the Middle East.
Do they have any idea of what sort of dangerous people we really are? Do they understand the history of the names of those ships now off their coasts, like the USS Peleliu or Enterprise, or the pedigree of the 82nd or 101st Airborne?
Victor Davis Hanson
Perhaps those shrinking violets should interview older Germans and Japanese. The simple fact is that, as strong as our response has been to date in Afghanistan and Iraq, it pales before what this country could unleash if provoked (and I'm NOT even including nukes).
Those opposed to us should know that we are not even that ticked off - yet. We don't really have blood in our eye - yet. And those people had better pray that we never reach such a condition, because then they will see Hell on Earth (prior to dying, along with lots of their comrades). You see, if properly motivated (as we were in WW2) this country will mobilize. In WW2 we had 130 million people and had armed forces of 12 million. Now, we have nearly 300 million people, which translates to armed forces of maybe 28 million - and that doesn't account for the fact that our agriculture, mining and manufacturing bases are all vastly more efficient than they were 60 years ago, which would free up additional millions for service. I'd like to ask those opposed to us if they'd like to face the 21st century equivalent of the force we put together in WW2? Because if we are sufficiently motivated, within a few short years we can put together a force of 200 Army divisions and 25 Marine divisions, all capable of being landed on any coastline in the world by a Navy of 40 carrier task forces and supported by an Air Force of 10,000 combat aircraft. To put all of this into context, we defeated Iraq in less than 3 weeks with about 3 divisions.
Would it cost a lot? Absolutely - multiple trillions. But Americans have shown on numerous occasions that they'd rather be a bit (or even a lot) poorer than be dead or enslaved.
I'd strongly suggest that nobody motivate us to mobilize like this.
I have to disagree. If Clinton had been caught in a large enough scandal, we would have been in downtown Baghdad years ago.
On to the topic, it is shaping up like a global war at time. The US and India seem to want to team up to contain China, the US, UK, Australia, Israel, and India (and others) to contain the Islamic fanatics, etc. with Germany, France, and Russia going the other way. Throw in the US, Australia, South Korea, and Japan into containing North Korea (as well as China mentioned earlier)
I can't put my finger on any one thing, but it feels like there is a lot of things going on, an undercurrent almost.
Not to mention that whatever nation was both stupid and crazy enough to provoke us to such extremes would be settling up the bill for us.
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You mean the comparison to the Civil War? I don't think the creation of a 'Global Federalized Super-State' is what the author had in mind. The basis for the comparison was the proposition that Americans are willing to expend the blood and treasure necessary to accomplish what they think is right.
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