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Beating down a woman: Vox Day on martial arts and the myth of the American Amazon
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Tuesday, April 15, 2003 | Vox Day

Posted on 04/15/2003 12:10:12 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

I've beaten down a few women in my time. I'm not writing metaphorically here. I'm talking about punching a girl in the face, doubling her over by kicking her in the stomach, then putting her down on the ground with a right cross to the side of the head. I can't say I didn't enjoy it – an adrenaline rush doesn't know gender.

Now, before my inbox overflows with outraged accusations of criminal Neanderthalian misogyny, I should probably point out that this all took place in the brutal full-contact martial-arts dojo that was my home away from home for almost six years. I still remember my first day there, seeing all the fighters in their black robes and the savage gleam in their eyes as they warily circled each other before exploding in a paroxysm of violence. It was truly a place apart – a broken ankle was a cause for mockery and uproarious laughter, and if one was so unfortunate as to get knocked out during a sparring session … well, to that ignominy was added the expense of buying the victor's drinks that evening.

Of every 10 newcomers, one remained a month later. Few – very few – ever reached the highest level, as the punishing belt tests were not so much sought as fearfully avoided at all costs. They were tests of skill and discipline, but more than anything, they tested one's willingness to get back on one's feet after being knocked down, again and again.

There weren't many women in our midst, understandably enough. But I was close to one in particular, we called her "Penthouse" because of her long, flowing mane of hair and her not-quite-ready-for-Playboy prettiness. She was a single mother who'd been pushed around by her ex-husband one too many times and she was determined to learn how to defend herself. After three years, she was called on the carpet to test for her green, and I was one of those selected for her sparring test, which consisted of six consecutive two-minute rounds against three high-level fighters, none of whom had just been through a grueling three-hour demonstration of every strike, kick and kata in our repertoir.

By the fifth round, she was exhausted and bruised, barely able to keep her hands up to her chin, much less defend herself. She was nearly helpless, but she must have sensed my desire to take it easy on her, because she snarled at me not to dis her like that, that she'd earned the right to be treated as a fighter and a Dragon. And she had, so it was with genuine affection and admiration that I dropped her twice in the next two exchanges, leaving her with a black eye and a bloody nose. It was a wonderful performance on her part, as she never hesitated to pick herself up, unaided, from the concrete floor. A few months later, the entire dojo cheered her on as she mercilessly destroyed the competition and won her first tournament – never having fought a woman before, she said afterward that she couldn't believe how weak and slow her opponents were, how easy it had been when compared with her training.

But if my time in the martial arts taught me to respect the inherent toughness and mental resolve of women, it has also taught me that combat of any sort is no place for them. It may be easy for a woman who hasn't taken a straight-line headshot from a 200-pound man to spin airy myths of martial equality, but no woman like "Penthouse" would ever believe them, and only a man who hasn't felt for himself how easy it is to smash a woman to the ground would take them seriously for a second.

Modern combat may be less strenuous than it was in the age of the heavily-armored Greek hoplite, but it is still physically punishing. The fluid nature of America's new uberblitz tactics means that the attacking forces must carry more of their own supplies on their backs, and indicates that the supply lines will often be operating behind enemy lines.

The capture of Jessica Lynch and Shoshana Johnson and the fact that a significant percentage of our casualties came from a maintenance company does not support the foolish myth of the American Amazon. Instead, it proves that women should be excluded from far more elements of the U.S. military than they are today.


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To: demosthenes the elder
kAcknor Sez:

Self rifled. I'm punching holes into paper here, don't feel the need to pay too much to do it. ;)

"bIjatlh 'e' yImev yItlhutlh!" (Stop talking! Drink!)

Have you checked the *bang_list today?

121 posted on 04/15/2003 10:36:05 PM PDT by kAcknor
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To: flyer182; .45MAN; demosthenes the elder
By "failure" I assume you're talking about a jammed gun? I don't shoot competition, so some of the lingo escapes me.

I had a lot of "failures" with my Walther P99 which I just traded in on my Walther P88 compact. The reason: The gun was top heavy and I, at 47 years old and the beginning onset of arthritis, admit to having weak wrists.

Neither my Beretta nor my P88 have ever jammed with thousands of rounds total going through each. An astute instructor showed me thumb placement to offset the wrist problem, plus both guns are balanced beautifully.

I believe that if a woman is matched with the proper equipment instead of believing the macho hype of "bigger is better," she will gain more confidence as a shooter and suffer fewer "failures."
122 posted on 04/16/2003 4:25:54 AM PDT by dansangel (America - love it, support it, or LEAVE IT!)
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To: Thorondir
Yep. Any throwing/grappling/manipulative art is going to be a terrible disadvantage for a woman. That's why I teach a particularly nasty percussion art called Wind Fist (Feng Chuan Tao). As I said before, a well trained woman can usually trash a larger untrained man, but with equal training, reach and power are big advantages. Testosterone also gives superior speed.

I assume that is IF he obeys the rules.

123 posted on 04/16/2003 4:28:41 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: tortoise
They just have different learning curves.

I stand somewhat corrected. I don't shoot competition, nor do I follow it, because no matter how well I shoot (and I'm pretty good), I will always have the self-esteem problem of thinking that I'm not good enough.

I sincerely believe, because women do "take" to instruction more readily, that if there were more women in the sport of competitve shooting, you would see that women would overtake men in the accuracy category. Because there are far fewer women, the competition, by sheer numbers alone, is not as stiff.

There's a latent talent out there that needs to be tapped. Too bad that the attitudes of some posters here (you are *not* included in this statement) is precisely what prevents women from becoming experienced shooters.

124 posted on 04/16/2003 4:34:10 AM PDT by dansangel (America - love it, support it, or LEAVE IT!)
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To: demosthenes the elder
a patient gave it to her in lieu of cash payment.

That happens to lawyers, too. My dad has gotten some pretty strange stuff in lieu of payment over the years. Including six live chickens and a .32 pistol (not at the same time!).

I had a client knit me an afghan once. It's beautiful, and I keep it on the easy chair in my living room.

125 posted on 04/16/2003 5:41:57 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . there is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: dansangel
By failures I am saying they were unable to quailfy. All Marine recruits are volunteers, so they were more than aware that they would be using a firearm. This is with an M-16.
126 posted on 04/16/2003 8:12:23 AM PDT by flyer182
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To: flyer182
My bad...again, being ignorant of technical jargon, I misunderstood.

I have no experience with an M-16, but I do with a Mini-14. It's an exceptional rifle.
127 posted on 04/16/2003 9:32:51 AM PDT by dansangel (America - love it, support it, or LEAVE IT!)
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To: AppyPappy
There ARE no rules.
128 posted on 04/16/2003 3:19:57 PM PDT by Thorondir
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To: JohnHuang2
The capture of Jessica Lynch and Shoshana Johnson and the fact that a significant percentage of our casualties came from a maintenance company does not support the foolish myth of the American Amazon.

Confused logic alert and math deficiency alert. Most of the personell in the maintenance company were MEN, including most of the ones who are now dead. Most of the ones captured were men as well. Furthermore, the way he worded it makes it sound like he's got something against maintenance companies as he illogically and lamely tries to equate "maintenance company" to two individual soldiers who happen to be women.

Classic Vox Day illogic, though. At least he's dependable.

129 posted on 04/16/2003 8:27:48 PM PDT by Lorianne
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