[xrp]

Good post. History paints an inaccurate picture of Abraham Lincoln. Of course, history is written by the victors and the victors are now running America's schools.

Scary.

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[Illbay]

It is decidedly regretful that the Union won over the Confederacy...

Unless you happen to be descended from slaves.

[an amused spectator]

What Lincoln did was not to free the slaves as much as to make slaves of us all to the Union system of centralized, powerful government that has now grown into a budding monarchy.

I don't know about a monarchy, but we are very close to being ruled by a handful of urban centers.We very nearly lost the last election to Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, Detroit, Philadelphia, Milwaukee/Madison, Boston, Minneapolis, Baltimore and New Orleans. I don't think the Founding Fathers envisioned the child of their making ruled by ten or eleven cities.

[jlogajan]

How the south violated the very US Constitution they agreed to uphold in their rush to declare war to spread slavery:

Article I. Section. 10. Clause 1:

No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation;

Article I. Section. 10. Clause 3:

No State shall, without the Consent of Congress ... enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State ... or engage in War

Article III. Section. 3. Clause 1:

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.

Article VI. Clause 3:

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution;

[sheltonmac]

The rabid anti-Southerners in this forum will never forsake their first love--centralized government. To believe that America would have fallen apart had the South been allowed to peacefully secede is to believe that the only thing holding the nation together was a strong, central government. Looking at the state of the U.S. today, I can't see how anyone can argue that we would be worse off had the South won.

[Non-Sequitur]

Slavery was wrong. It would have disappeared from the South under far friendlier terms had the Confederacy survived.

But none of the southern leaders of the period agreed with that, nor did virtually any of the white southern population as a whole.

[legman]

All slavery was ended by the Emancipation Proclamation.

The Emancipation Proclamation only ended slavery in the states that left the Union.

[MattAMiller]

It does not seem to me that state governments have, by their nature, any more respect for individual rights than the federal government.

[Junior]

All slavery was ended by the Emancipation Proclamation.

All slavery in the states "under rebellion" was declared illegal under the Emancipation Proclamation. Slaves in the North had to wait till after the war for freedom.