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Alien Chasers Richard Hoagland
TLC ^ | april-14-2003 | tlc.com

Posted on 04/14/2003 2:32:11 PM PDT by green team 1999

alien chasers

Richard Hoagland

When a friendly journalist leaked to Richard Hoagland details of the plot of the upcoming film Mission to Mars, he was simultaneously ecstatic and suspicious.

The film apparently depicts the discovery of an immense artificial structure on the martian surface that resembles a face — a touch eerily evocative of Hoagland's belief that the Viking I probe photo from 1976 depicts precisely such a structure in the Cydonia region of Mars' northern hemisphere.

But that unrecognized nod to his theories only gave him pause; he notes that his longtime adversary, NASA — whose officials have sought to debunk Hoagland's Mars face as a photographic glitch — have been conspicuously involved in the film project.

As often is his inclination, Hoagland divines a hidden meaning: A cabal of dissenters within the space agency, he speculates, must be moving to embrace the martian-face theory at last.

"I would say there is a group in NASA using this (film) as a vehicle to run it up the flagpole," he says. "I'm fascinated why now is the time someone would decide to put it out there, in a major motion picture."

Hoagland is an exoarcheologist, a specialist in the study of archeological sites on other worlds. It is a particularly speculative discipline, since, as Joel Achenbach notes in his book Captured By Aliens, it depends upon the yet-unproven assumption that there is extraterrestrial life to create such ruins.

Yet Hoagland, a frequent guest on the Art Bell radio show, is not without some credentials. He earned an undergraduate degree in astronomy, and worked as a curator of a space museum in Springfield, Mass.

As a journalist, he worked as a science consultant for CBS News during the coverage of the race to the moon, and subsequently wrote for publications such as Star and Sky and Science Digest.

According to Achenbach's book, in the 1970s Hoagland gave Carl Sagan the idea of putting a message on the Voyager satellites to greet extraterrestrials, in case other beings someday found the craft.

In 1980, he authored a well-regarded article in Star and Sky speculating about the possibility of life in the oceans beneath the icy outer layer of the Jovian moon Europa.

From those relatively staid beginnings, Hoagland ventured out into the rarefied upper atmosphere of the search for extraterrestrial life, where the molecules of scientific hypotheses start to intermingle and collide with conspiracy theories and mysticism.

In the early 1980s, Hoagland subsequently championed the idea that the martian formation was an immense, artificial object — a humanoid face a mile long. Additionally, he has argued that there are other objects around the face: pyramids, located in relation to one another at angles of 19.5 degrees, remnants of an ancient, seminal interplanetary civilization whose handiwork may also include the Great Pyramid of Giza, Stonehenge and the circular Native American ruins recently discovered in Miami.

A subsequent probe's high-resolution photo, in NASA's view, shows the face to be an illusion; Hoagland suggests that the "new" photo is a fake, part of a government conspiracy to cover up evidence of extraterrestrials.

"We need good reporters to delve behind the propaganda and find out what is going on," he says.

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TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: europa; faceonmars; mars; nasa; paramids; piramids; pyramids; snakeoil
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To: dark_lord
How did the aliens get into the VIDEO camera? They are even more powerful than we feared!
61 posted on 04/14/2003 5:00:08 PM PDT by chilepepper (Gnocchi Seuton!)
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To: green team 1999
How's Art Dingaling doing these days?
62 posted on 04/14/2003 5:02:10 PM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: Prince Charles
retired,playing with the ham radio,i know he listen to coast to coast everynight.
63 posted on 04/14/2003 5:05:21 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: Orangedog
Watch out what you wish for. Proof of an advanced civilization, even one that died out thousands of years ago, on another planet could possibly topple one of the pillars of society...namely religion. Religious leaders from every faith would have a lot of explaining to do to the faithful. Hard telling how that would pan out.

I had already heard the "In my Father's house are many mansions" quote used for just that, and under peculiar conditions.

Many years ago I was out back with my telescope, which was tracking the Coma Berenices Cluster..a swarm of galaxies, when the doorbell rang. It was some religious guy handing out tracts.

"Never mind THAT..come out here and look at this!".

For him it was a religious experience..it really blew his mind and he got INTO it, and came back at my invitation a week later. He had no trouble with the concept at all.

He felt his Boss could do anything He wanted, including populating anything He built.

Maybe more orthodox religions would gag on the concept, I don't know.

64 posted on 04/14/2003 5:13:15 PM PDT by Gorzaloon (Contents may have settled during shipping, but this tagline contains the stated product weight.)
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To: green team 1999
Good for him..I know he went thru hell in his personal family life.

From an entertainment aspect, I loved his old show. It kept me up too late!

65 posted on 04/14/2003 5:14:07 PM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: green team 1999
Hoagland does have some fascinating pics on his site. But, as someone else mentioned earlier, photoshop can do wonders.
I always verify the MOC image he has on his site to the malins site. Here is the URL: http://www.msss.com/
66 posted on 04/14/2003 5:14:24 PM PDT by SealSeven
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To: SealSeven
Hoagland does have some fascinating pics on his site. But, as someone else mentioned earlier, photoshop can do wonders. I always verify the MOC image he has on his site to the malins site. Here is the URL: http://www.msss.com/

the problem is nasa get to play with photoshop first and a year later releases thounsands of pictures.

67 posted on 04/14/2003 5:17:54 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: green team 1999
We need good reporters to delve behind the propaganda and find out what is going on

With the war coming to an end, there's some reporters Gen. Brooks would highly recommend for that new assignment.

About the chemtrails - I wasn't a believer until there was one (big time publicity) over the house and suddenly I got sicker than I'd ever been in my life and it lasted for six months. The doctors never found out what it was. They thought it was bacterial but no antibiotics ever even slowed it down. I still have complications years later. I dunno, but after that I'm leaning toward thinking there may be something to chemtrails.

68 posted on 04/14/2003 5:22:17 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: green team 1999
True. However, looking at some of the images, especially Pathfinders, they missed a few "anomalies".
69 posted on 04/14/2003 5:36:16 PM PDT by SealSeven
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To: mtbopfuyn
i have seen the pictures (close ups)of military aircraft(four engines look like a -135)light grey two tone us air force spraying, but the contrail is coming from the sides of the aircraft body,not the engines.

if the engines don`t make contrails,why would the side of the body??, that picture made me realise we don`t have all the answers.

70 posted on 04/14/2003 5:57:27 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: SealSeven
the part of the show i don`t get into and always hope it goes fast is about "shadow people".
71 posted on 04/14/2003 6:01:39 PM PDT by green team 1999
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tonight april-4-2003 on coast to coast
Mike Heiser
(michaelsheiser) is an expert on angels and divine beings in ancient texts. Tonight, he'll discuss Nibiru (Planet X) and the Anunnaki in Sumerian texts.
72 posted on 04/14/2003 6:44:32 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: Gorzaloon
Maybe more orthodox religions would gag on the concept, I don't know.

What many would gag on is the final "de-thrownment" of man. First, the Earth was the center of the Universe...Bzzzzt! Wrong! Okay, but at least we were at the Center of the solar system....sorry, but that's incorrect. Well at least we are the only place in the Universe with life....Ooooh, nice try, but thanks for playing. The last pedistal for us to fall from is that of the high place of "Only Intelligent Life In The Universe." A high place to fall from...maybe to far to fall for many to consider.

73 posted on 04/14/2003 6:45:56 PM PDT by Orangedog (Soccer-Moms are the biggest threat to your freedoms and the republic !)
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To: green team 1999
>well, got bad news,they mention few times,different guests about the year 2012,the alien invasion(also mentioned on the x-files)will begin.

Now its 2012. I want to know what happened to 1999? That guy who relocated to the Sandwich islands was predicting all hell would break loose in then. Well both he and the Nostradumass dude (the one who thinks the message of Nostradomas for the ages is to vote deomocrat) got that wrong by two years (or not at all, depending on how you keep score). Of course they have to move the date out again. The 1999 scenario was such a bust.

How many times do you have to be lied to before you figure it out?

74 posted on 04/14/2003 8:07:41 PM PDT by Dialup Llama
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To: green team 1999
> Tonight, he'll discuss Nibiru (Planet X) and the Anunnaki in Sumerian texts.

The Planet X people have been clearly saying that it would be VISIBLE and a REAL planet and that it would arrive by the middle of May. My prediction? Soon they will say the arrival of Planet X is going to be spiritual and be marked by Earth changes and weather upheavals but you won't be able to see it.

75 posted on 04/14/2003 8:10:46 PM PDT by Dialup Llama
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To: green team 1999

The face has always been shown upside down. Here's
what it might look like rightside up, mirrored and a
slight retouch to smooth over the connection lines.
76 posted on 04/14/2003 8:16:58 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Eastbound
P.S.: I named the critter the ZOT From Mars! :)

Maybe someone can do a better job than I did. It looks like what might be described as a classic GREY!

77 posted on 04/14/2003 8:23:57 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Dialup Llama
That guy who relocated to the Sandwich islands was predicting all hell would break loose in then.

that was major ed dames aka (dr.doom). gradually,it`s starting,wars,famine,water drought,epidemies,weather etc.

78 posted on 04/14/2003 8:32:22 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: Eastbound
they mention that on the program before,it does look like a grey!

grey means the small aliens with big head,like the ones from roswell,same that abducted whietly strieber.

79 posted on 04/14/2003 8:37:18 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: green team 1999
I sent one similar to this to Hoagland many months ago, but never received an acknowledgement. Thanks for mentioning that.
80 posted on 04/14/2003 8:42:11 PM PDT by Eastbound
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