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To: polemikos; Dirk McQuickly; eBelasco
In Victor Davis Hanson's great book, CARNAGE AND CULTURE, Landmark Battles That Defined Western Power, Hanson describes how the West developed an incredible knack for killing. In this book he describes nine key battles that illustrate the critical elements that defined Western power, including individual initiative, superior organization and discipline, access to the best weapons and tactical adaptation and flexibility.

While I was reading Hanson's book, the thought occurred to me that the Iraqi’s don’t have a chance, even if they are stupid enough to use gas, bio weapons or whatever. Their culture completely limits them because they lack the critical elements for success in battle, (and life) mentioned above. That is the reason middle Eastern cultures are becoming smaller and smaller in the rear view mirror of the West.

85 posted on 04/14/2003 2:20:28 PM PDT by Cuttnhorse
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To: Cuttnhorse
Hansons book sounds like a great read...will try to obtain said in the future.

With each military conflict ...observable lessons are machinated 24.

Was reading a Russian periodical recently....kinda scary .in that the article mused on whats known as Russia's "Space Forces"....reflections on arming in sphere 3 to effect geostrategic influence...reflections also in advancing nuclear missile capability..then pushing it forward as a negotioation tool with the U.S.,...or rather...and extortion tool for negotiation.

Russia and China are undoubtadly intimidated by what they have seen of late by U.S. Military Primacy....they will be burning the candle 24 to relieve some of that personal insecurity.

Satillite grid and comm link to defense forces is the main body the Russians and Chinese would go for....change the conflict from the outset.

Some muse over how easy it would be to thrash Russia and China...
I'm with others Like Clancy..who comment that you really do not want to go on them...not if you want to have a nation left to come home to.
Both contries could obsorb multiple nuclear hits...have cites and populace blown away in grand numerics...but could America sustain such a blow.

It would be great if History shifted...and only little tin pot dictators bought the farm...that history would forbid the great horror of U.S.,Russia and China going nuclear on each other.

114 posted on 04/14/2003 2:44:14 PM PDT by Light Speed
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To: Cuttnhorse
That is the reason middle Eastern cultures are becoming smaller and smaller in the rear view mirror of the West.

Well...I'm not sure the metaphor works.
Actually, middle Eastern cultures are getting larger and larger -- literally -- because of birth rates. They will beat us, not on the battleground, but in the bedroom...so to speak. :-b

Western ambivalence to immigration is another issue. In the article FRANCE IS ALMOST FINISHED, radical muslims will gain the French heartland without firing a shot.
128 posted on 04/14/2003 2:57:43 PM PDT by polemikos
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To: Cuttnhorse
Their culture completely limits them because they lack the critical elements for success in battle, (and life) mentioned above. That is the reason middle Eastern cultures are becoming smaller and smaller in the rear view mirror of the West.

A while back on FR, someone posted the lead paragraphs and a link to a long article written by an American military adviser to some of our Arab "allies". He had years of first-hand experience with how Arab armies work (or don't work). His conclusion was that the Arab culture torpedoes, in about six different ways, any chance of their having any kind of truly effective military organization. It was a fascinating article. If I can dig up a link to it, I'll post it.

160 posted on 04/14/2003 4:01:10 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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