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Grijalva's challenges Bush to fairness quest: For every $1 you put in Iraq, put $1 in the U.S.
ARIZONA DAILY STAR ^ | By C.J. Karamargin

Posted on 04/14/2003 12:15:21 PM PDT by hsmomx3

If it's good enough for Iraq, it's good enough for the United States.

That's the logic Rep. Raúl Grijalva and other Democratic lawmakers are applying to the Bush administration's plans to rebuild Iraq.

The former Pima County supervisor is signing on to the American Parity Act, a bill to require the administration to spend as much on building schools and hospitals in the U.S. as it plans to spend on building schools and hospitals in Iraq.

The bill has little likelihood of passage, but Grijalva said it sends a message about taking care of the country's social needs. "There's a great deal of symbolism involved in this," Grijalva said. "We're trying to make a point."

Other sponsors include Rep. Rahm Emanuel of Chicago, a former adviser to President Clinton.

Oyama to be honored

Grijalva today pays tribute a man he worked with while serving on the Tucson Unified School District governing board: bilingual educator Henry "Hank" Oyama.

Oyama taught at Safford Middle School and Pueblo High School before he developed the bilingual program at Pima Community College. A new TUSD elementary school was named after Oyama last year.

At 2:30 p.m., Oyama will receive from Grijalva an American flag flown over the U.S. Capitol. The event is at Grijalva's district office, 810 E. 22nd St.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: az; iraq; usa
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1 posted on 04/14/2003 12:15:21 PM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: hsmomx3
Does this ding-a-ling have the slightest idea how much of the budget is already spent on social programs? Sheesh.
2 posted on 04/14/2003 12:17:13 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla; woofie
COST OF THE WAR? MS PELOSI?
relative | 4/12/03 | Uncle Chuck

Posted on 04/13/2003 1:43 PM EDT by woofie

I recieved the following email from a relative ...Since I am not a CPA I cannot vouch for the numbers ...so if they are wrong let me know... but knowing the relative who sent this I would bet they are pretty close:

SATURDAY APRIL 12TH 2003

AS MANY OF THE YOUNGER GENERATION ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE COST OF THIS IRAQ WAR I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE OF INTEREST TO MAKE SOME COMPARISONS.

THE FOLLOWING DOLLAR AMOUNTS ARE SHOWING THE TOTAL COSTS AND THE COST PER PERSON !!!

AND WE LIVED THRU IT !!!!!

WORLD WAR 1 191 BILLION $2,489 PER PERSON

WORLD WAR 2 2.9 TRILLION $20,388 PER PERSON

KOREAN WAR 336 BILLION $2,266 PER PERSON

VIETNAM WAR 494 BILLION $2,204 PER PERSON

GULF WAR 1 76 BILLION $306 PER PERSON

IRAQ WAR ESTIMATE 75 BILLION $255 PER PERSON

AND AS A PERCENTAGE OF THE GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT SPENT ON DEFENSE:

WORLD WAR 2 --- 38%

KOREA -------------- 14%

VIETNAM ----------- 9%

GULF WAR 1 ----- 5%

IRAQ ------------------- 4%

AS YOU CAN PLAINLY SEE THE HARDSHIPS ENDURED IN WW 2 WERE PLAINLY HIGHER -- BUT WE SURVIVED !!!

AND WE WILL PAY OFF THIS CURRENT DEBT TOO !!

ALSO - A POINT TO REMEMBER THERE WERE 55 MILLION LIVES LOST IN WW 2 !

LETS GIVE BUSH CREDIT FOR WHAT HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED THIS TIME. BEFORE WE HAD ANOTHER HITLER. IMAGINE HOW MANY LIVES WOULD HAVE BEEN SAVED IN WW 2 IF WE DID NOT HAVE ALL THESE IDIOTIC WAR PROTESTORS !!!

3 posted on 04/14/2003 12:18:48 PM PDT by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- or an Iraqi!)
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4 posted on 04/14/2003 12:19:54 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: hsmomx3

We already said this is not about going over there to steal their oil. The oil money belongs to the Iraqi people. It will be spent on Iraq.

Neither the U.S., nor the Democratic Party, has any right to demand that any of that money be spent on programs in the United States. That is the absolutely worst thing we could do.


5 posted on 04/14/2003 12:19:56 PM PDT by Nick Danger (We have imprisoned them in their tanks -- Baghdad Bob)
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To: hsmomx3
a bill to require the administration to spend as much on building schools and hospitals in the U.S. as it plans to spend on building schools and hospitals in Iraq.

They want him to CUT the programs? Fine by me.

6 posted on 04/14/2003 12:20:33 PM PDT by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- or an Iraqi!)
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To: hsmomx3
require the administration to spend as much on building schools and hospitals in the U.S. as it plans to spend on building schools and hospitals in Iraq.

1... This is, no doubt, in addition to all the billions we already spend on U.S. schools.

2... One might observe that the administration does not control the pursestrings - "requiring" the President to do something is pretty ridiculous coming from a House member.

7 posted on 04/14/2003 12:20:41 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: hsmomx3
$726 billion in tax cuts ought to cover it.
8 posted on 04/14/2003 12:21:30 PM PDT by CONSERVE
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These liberals want to cut federal spending to $160 billion ($80 billion times two)? What a turnaround! LOL
9 posted on 04/14/2003 12:23:04 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: Izzy Dunne
2... One might observe that the administration does not control the pursestrings - "requiring" the President to do something is pretty ridiculous coming from a House member.

Excellent point....and obviously lost on Grijalva.

10 posted on 04/14/2003 12:25:09 PM PDT by sirshackleton
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To: hsmomx3
Well here is Bush's 2004 Budget proposal: $1,907,000,000, think he'll be happy now?
11 posted on 04/14/2003 12:29:15 PM PDT by funkywbr
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To: funkywbr
Whooops make that 1,907,000,000,000
12 posted on 04/14/2003 12:30:16 PM PDT by funkywbr
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To: Howlin
Right on target, Howlin. You are wonderful.
13 posted on 04/14/2003 1:20:01 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: hsmomx3
Actually, this doesn't sound like a bad idea.
14 posted on 04/14/2003 1:20:52 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (HOLLYWOOD:Ask not what U can do for your country, ask what U can do for Iraq!)
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To: mewzilla
Just more DemocRATic crap. But it will play to the determinedly ignorant.
15 posted on 04/14/2003 1:23:06 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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To: Happy2BMe
You mean because it would be a huge cut in federal spending?
16 posted on 04/14/2003 1:24:45 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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To: freekitty
Not me, woofie got that one!
17 posted on 04/14/2003 2:22:29 PM PDT by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- or an Iraqi!)
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To: hsmomx3
More on Grijvala:

Grijalva calls for Federal investigation of Arizona Border Groups

18 posted on 04/14/2003 2:24:14 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (...and Freedom tastes of Reality.)
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To: hsmomx3
Hmmm...

Sure, how about we spend the money here at home? Give it to the Border Patrol and INS and tell them to start mass deportations. Grijalva would lose half his constituency.
19 posted on 04/14/2003 7:05:43 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder ("Push to test." <Click!> "Release to detonate." Oops...)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
"You mean because it would be a huge cut in federal spending?"

Well, we all know the "motives" for the Dimwits pushing something like this (to cause as much trouble for Bush as humanly possible), and I don't think it is feasible, but I know a lot of schools and roads within twenty miles from where I live in the United States that could sure use some rebuilding.

20 posted on 04/14/2003 7:12:09 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (HOLLYWOOD:Ask not what U can do for your country, ask what U can do for Iraq!)
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