Russian organization was training Iraqi spies, documents show (more info from Iraqi documents)

San Francisco Chronicle ^ | April 13, 2003 | Robert Collier and Bill Wallace

[FairOpinion]

A Moscow-based organization was training Iraqi intelligence agents as recently as last September -- at the same time Russia was resisting the Bush administration's push for a tough stand against Saddam Hussein's regime, Iraqi documents discovered by The Chronicle show.

[Orion78]

I think we better put up our National Missile Shield fast, then we can really tell even countries like Russia and China where to go.

I agree. We need to do it before its too late.

Russia May Expand Nuclear Doctrine (4/28/00)
Russia's hidden nuclear missiles: Clinton turned blind eye to major treaty violations (6/5/00)
Russia urges U.S. to reduce nuclear arsenal (11/13/00)
Russian Defector Warns US against Planned Unilateral Disarmament Measures (7/19/01)
Russians at Pentagon for missile talks {Russians get missile-shield details} (8/9/01)
Russia test-fires SS-25 intercontinental missile (10/3/01)
U.S. Says Russia Is Preparing Nuclear Tests (5/12/02)
Russia To Retain MIRV'd ICBMs Beyond START II Deadline (8/27/02)

[FairOpinion]

WOW!

You have a treasure trove of amazing links!

[Orion78]

They could smuggle bombs in from Mexico, but we still need a National Missile Shield. With Russia and China helping countries like Iran and North Korea, we need to be able to shoot down a missile before it hits, not just the ability to nuke the piss out of the enemy in return. Even one nuclear missile hit on a U.S. City is unacceptable.

[RusIvan]

Well-known Russian defense analyst Pavel Felgenhauer disagrees.+++

Better to say the well known stooge. he is the target of everyone jokes and rants. He just clown.

All right. Russia trained someone from Iraq I'm not surprised.
There many of training facilities there near Moscow.

I red somewhere that Russia sells weaponry and expertise to 72 states. WHo know what state will be american target tomorrow?

Then you will again speculate about Russia involvement. It is just russian business. To sell arms.

[Orion78]

Thank you. I started collecting about 2 years ago. I have alot more bookmarked that need to be changed to HTML. Eventually they will end up on my homepage with the rest.

[Orion78]

It is just russian business. To sell arms.

That may be the case, but when Russia sells arms (especially nuclear and missile technology) to Dictators and Communists who turn around and threaten us with it, it becomes a problem.

[RusIvan]

Arms is NOT WMD. There no examples of Russia sells WMD.

Except your dearest defectors who defected 13 years ago when it wasn't Russia but USSR.

[Orion78]

Arms is NOT WMD. There no examples of Russia sells WMD.

Russia, China aid Iran's missile program (9/10/97)
Iran paid $25m. for nuclear weapons, documents show (5/10/98)
Russia says nuclear technology sales to Iran pose no threat (5/11/98)
U.S. and Russia Clash Over Shipment of Strategic Metal to Iran (6/12/01)
Russia, N.Korea, China give Iran missile aid -CIA (9/8/01)
Russia and Iran Sign Arms Deal; Nuclear Reactors on the Way (10/3/01)
Official: Russia committed to completing nuclear reactor in Iran (2/14/02)
N Korea eyes Russia as nuclear partner (3/26/02)
Russian Nuclear Minister Pledges To Complete Reactor Deal With Iran (3/27/02)
Putin Refuses to Stop Supplying Iran With Nuclear Reactor Components At Summit (5/26/02)
Russia forges ahead with Iran reactor (12/26/02)
Russia offers N-plant expertise to North Korea in order to diffuse the USA Crisis (1/11/03)

[Orion78]

US accuses Russia and China over North Korea bomb (10/19/02)
Iran's nuclear plant progress 'eye-opening' (3/10/03)

[RusIvan]

Ok civil nuclier reactors yes.

But where nukes sold? Show me please.

[RusIvan]

Accusations? It is too easy. I may accuse you to be "child molestor" for example. So what? Where the proves?

[Orion78]

I think its pretty obvious who is giving North Korea and Iran the capability to produce a WMD.

[RusIvan]

Civil nuclier reactor is not capability. You nave to know that.

[Orion78]

Iran's assurances about its intentions have drawn skepticism. Why, weapons experts ask, would a country that sits atop one of the world's largest reserves of oil and natural gas spend hundreds of millions of dollars to build nuclear-power plants?

"Whether there is an economic rationale doesn't matter: This still will bring Iran within weeks of getting a large arsenal of bombs," said Henry Sokolski, a Defense Department official during the first Bush administration who served as an adviser on nonproliferation policy. "And they can do it without breaking any rules."

[Orion78]

US says Iran uses Bushehr reactor for nuclear weapons, warns Russia (2/1/03)

[Orion78]

Civil nuclier reactor is not capability. You nave to know that.

"We believe Iran uses Bushehr as a cover and a pretext for obtaining sensitive technologies to advance its nuclear weapons program," State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said in a written answer to a question posed at a Friday news briefing.

[RusIvan]

"We believe Iran uses Bushehr as a cover and a pretext for obtaining sensitive technologies to advance its nuclear weapons program," State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said in a written answer to a question posed at a Friday news briefing.+++

I'm very eager to read what brought up that amazing discovery?

Because I beleive to Russian Atomic Energy experts and International atomic energy commision experts that Iranians cann't extract nothing from those reactors.

[SoulStorms]

I can't think of anybody in the Iraqi security service that hasn't been trained in Russia

Judging from the results, I think there should be a lot of sweaty asses in Russia.

[Orion78]

U.S., Russia At Odds on Iranian Deal (6/15/01)

"The United States and Russia are at odds over American and Israeli allegations that Moscow permitted a shipment of high-strength aluminum to Iran that could be used to manufacture enriched uranium for use in nuclear weapons, according to U.S. and Russian officials....

"...U.S. officials said they suspected that the aluminum alloy delivered to Iran was intended for the manufacture of rotor blades used in gas centrifuges that separate out the enriched uranium that can produce a chain reaction for a nuclear explosion. U.S. experts say that Iran has been attempting to acquire centrifuge technology, as well as other technology for enriching uranium, for much of the last decade as part of a larger effort to build an atomic bomb.

Iran's nuclear plant progress 'eye-opening' (3/10/03)

Near Natanz in central Iran, 160 newly minted centrifuges stand in neat rows inside a nuclear complex that the United States and other countries were surprised to learn about seven months ago. This year, they will begin spinning hot uranium gas into nuclear fuel.

In a nearby building, workers are assembling parts for 1,000 more centrifuges, part of 5,000 machines that will be linked in a vast uranium-enrichment plant under construction. When the project is completed in 2005, Iran will be capable of producing enough enriched uranium for several nuclear bombs each year.

[RusIvan]

Orion just think what you just posted.

Iranians use cenrifuges for URANIAN gas. WHat does it mean?
It means that they DON"T use russian technology.
The fuel which provided for that reactor consisted of uraniun OXIDE tablets not pure uranium which one needs for centrifuges.
And another thing. Russia technology doesn't use centrifuges as far as I know. Russian nukes are plutonium based not uranium based.
Centruging is american technology.