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To: Thebaddog
CNN is a news-gathering organization (albeit with a leftist bent). Its job is to gather and disseminate news. In order to do that, it needs to be where the news is happening. Sometimes it needs to hold its nose and overlook stuff in order to stay there. It needs to employ local people who know the area and the language.

Pulling out would have endangered those local folks who would have had to stay behind. They would also lose a prime source for news. Factually reporting all they knew would get people tortured and killed and others kicked out of the country.

Eason Jordan knew all of this. To his credit, he did advise King Hussein when he learned of a specific threat. Now he has revealed this nastyness to all of us. Frankly, I think the guy deserves a couple of attaboys for being the first to do it. There will be others. Surely, CNN is not the only organization which had to overlook and not report stuff that it knew in order to protect its people.

31 posted on 04/12/2003 6:43:52 AM PDT by TechJunkYard (via Cherie)
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To: TechJunkYard
They may have warned King Hussein, but they didn't advise Saddam's sons-in-law about the plan to kill them.
34 posted on 04/12/2003 6:53:20 AM PDT by wimpycat ('Nemo me impune lacessit')
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To: TechJunkYard
Let me get this straight. If CNN factually reported all they knew about people being torured and killed by Hussein's regime, it would get people tortured and killed?

How about if they came out sooner, it may have prevented more people from being tortured and killed. Maybe the USA wouldn't have had to dance with the UN for a year and a half before getting Saddam.

On the other hand, this story is just going to fade away. Any major news organization is not going to make a big deal over it because chances are that they had people in Iraq who knew about this stuff also. Chances are that includes all the major networks AND are beloved FOX unfortuneately.
40 posted on 04/12/2003 7:04:28 AM PDT by LegionofDorkness
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To: TechJunkYard
CNN is a news-gathering organization (albeit with a leftist bent). Its job is to gather and disseminate news. In order to do that, it needs to be where the news is happening. Sometimes it needs to hold its nose and overlook stuff in order to stay there.

No. That isn't what you do.

I've worked for a newspaper before. I was on the business side, but I was privy to discussions of what would get reported and to how things would get reported.

There is a journalistic ethic about reporting the news. Whatever it is, wherever you find it, and regardless of the consequences.

It is a compulsion. Good journalists all have it. Good news organizations all have it. It isn't something that you compromise.

42 posted on 04/12/2003 7:16:19 AM PDT by The Other Harry
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To: TechJunkYard
For further insight into the media cover-up in Iraq, please read this from The New Republic:

http://www.tnr.com/docprint.mhtml?i=20021028&s=foer102802
45 posted on 04/12/2003 7:26:49 AM PDT by SuperSonic (No Blood For Ratings!)
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To: TechJunkYard
You have just described a NEWS organization that would allow murder, rape and torture just so they can have ACCESS to report the news EXCEPT FOR THE MURDER RAPE OR TORTURE. Your equivication and relativism is very telling.
65 posted on 04/12/2003 8:58:15 AM PDT by PISANO
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To: TechJunkYard
Call what is wrong, wrong. And call what is right, right.

You are wrong.

fwiw

85 posted on 04/12/2003 10:35:23 AM PDT by Osage Orange (The Clinton's hearts are darker than a well in hell.)
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To: TechJunkYard
Frequently, and for long stretches over the last 12 years, CNN was the only American media in Iraq. Oh, occasionally, even CNN would get thrown out, but only CNN was willing to do whatever necessary, to get back in the good graces of Saddam's regime.

CNN sold it's journalistic soul for the privilege of serving as part of Saddam's propaganda machine. You can give kudos to Eason Jordan for coming clean if you want to. Not me. He did it on a Friday when the news will die on the vine. He did it in a letter to the NYT, not on television, and without having to be questioned. He makes an mid morning puffball appearance on CNN, and instead of the same "soul cleansing" tone in the NYT letter, he makes himself almost heroic, for caring so deeply about the safety of CNN employees.

Granted, other news organizations might have had to play footsie with Saddam over the years, but none of the others I know of, were willing to then present the anti-war point of view, the bash Bush position with such impact. This Mr. Jordan, and CNN could have easily found ways to present the truth of the Saddam regime through surrogates, if they had chosen to do so.

The fact that CNN honchos all through the 90s, were big time FOBs, and the fact that CNN was concealing the brutal truth of Saddam's regime which allowed Clinton to escape having to deal with it militarily, shouldn't escape us. No doubt, Bill Clinton knew all about CNN in Baghdad.

And I think it's totally illogical to presume that CNN reporters didn't know what was going on. Peter Arnett, Christianne Amanpour, and the lesser known reporters and CNN staffers in Iraq most certainly were in on the fix. From CNN corporate headquarters, they had to have been told what to report and what not to report. No one ever quit in protest, did they? If there had ever been any doubt about Arnett and Amanpour's political leanings, we know now. They probably didn't raise an eyebrow when told not to report atrocities..hellsbells, they probably agreed with the policy for their own political reasons!!

Why did Eason Jordan come forward now? He had to, and he's doing it to protect CNN as well as himself. Now that other news organizations are incountry, CNN's part in the Iraq story was bound to come out sooner or later. They don't know yet whether Baghdad Bob will be caught and who knows what he might confess, or what he might say about his close friends at CNN.

90 posted on 04/12/2003 11:34:54 AM PDT by YaYa123
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