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Medical Experts Speak Out -- SARS Virus Could Be Man-Made and Possibly a Bio-Weapon
News Pundit.net ^ | 4/11/2003 | Douglas Oliver

Posted on 04/11/2003 4:47:04 PM PDT by ex-Texan

Medical Experts Speak Out -- SARS Virus Could Be Man-Made and Possibly a Bio-Weapon

This was the breaking news late yesterday. News 24 was reporting that top Russian medical experts were lining up to express concern about the virus. A brief excerpt:

Nikolai Filatov, head of Moscow's epidemiological services, told the Gazeta daily that he thought the pneumonia was man-made because "there is no vaccine for this virus, its make-up is unclear, it has not been very widespread and the population is not immune to it." * * *

The virus, according to academy of medecine member Sergei Kolesnikov, is a cocktail of mumps and measles, whose mix could never appear in nature. * * *

"We can only get that in a laboratory," he told a conference in the Siberian city of Irkutsk, quoted by RIA Novosti news agency.

It may have spread because of an "accidental leak" from a lab, he added. * * *

Another top level Russian scientist expressed similar views today. Dr. Sergei Kolesnikov, Academician of the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences was quoted in En Rian.ru that he believed the virus if atypical pneumonia has been created artificially in a laboratory "possibly as a bacteriological weapon."

He stated his opinion in that regard in news conference in Irkutsk (Siberia) on Thursday.

* * * the virus of atypical pneumonia is a synthesis of two viruses (of measles and infectious parotiditis or mumps), the natural compound of which is impossible. This can be done only in a laboratory, the academician is convinced. He also said that in creating bacteriological weapons a protective anti-viral vaccine is, as a rule, worked out at the same time. Therefore, the scientist believes, a medicine for atypical pneumonia may soon appear. He does not exclude that the spread of the virus could have begun accidentally, as a result of "an unsanctioned leakage" from a laboratory. * * *

Dr. Kolesnikov is a famous scientist with international standing. He served as a former co-President of the IPPNW and as member of the Russian Duma. He has published many international scientific papers. A brief biography may be found here.

ABC News.au had a nearly identical report up on its web site today. They are reporting that the SARS "Mystery Virus" may well be a Chinese bio-weapon that accidently escaped the laboratory.

NewsPundit is following the lead of the Russians:

I have been biting my tongue for the last week and trying to quiet the bio-weapon rumors that have been floating around. But now I believe the "cat has been let out of the bag." All of the evidence is pointing to a man-made virus. Russian medical science may be years ahead of the U.S., U.K. in its experience with such things. So I reluctantly follow their lead.

The Chinese have a lot of explaining to do. The virus is now "out there" . . . just like the "Truth is Out There ...." One thing they can explain: Was this a test of the World Heath Organization, or how quickly the U.S. is capable of reacting to a bio-weapon ?

(Excerpt) Read more at newspundit.net ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: biologicalweapon; bioweapon; paramyxovirus; sars; vaccine; virus
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To: MatthewViti
Riiight. Source, please.
41 posted on 04/11/2003 6:36:56 PM PDT by homeagain balkansvet
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To: DB
Good POINTS. I take it you agree it is not a bio weapon.
42 posted on 04/11/2003 6:38:18 PM PDT by Henchman
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To: Henchman; CathyRyan; Mother Abigail; per loin; Dog Gone; Petronski; EternalHope; Domestic Church; ..
Filter system 'wipes out SARS'.
43 posted on 04/11/2003 6:42:34 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: Beck_isright
My wife challenged me when I suggested this very scenerio. HK is the perfect place to spread a virus of any kind. Close contact between very large numbers of people, world wide traffic, and of course, this kind of "stuff" comes to the U.S. every year in the form of the Flu.

It is having a powerful effect on the economy already, just wait untill the known CASES doubles or triples.
44 posted on 04/11/2003 6:44:38 PM PDT by duk
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To: All
Toronto SARS outbreak may have turned a corner, officials say.
45 posted on 04/11/2003 6:45:41 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: All
China begins to grasp scale of Sars outbreak .
46 posted on 04/11/2003 6:47:33 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: MatthewViti
Go to the website. There are many articles up on the site. That factor was discussed in detail in other reports.
47 posted on 04/11/2003 6:47:56 PM PDT by ex-Texan (primates capitulards toujours en quete de fromage!)
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To: All
Elevators to Cockroaches All Get SARS Scrutiny.
48 posted on 04/11/2003 6:49:20 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: Ronin
>>I think it was being researched as a bio-weapon and escaped due to carelessness.

If that's the case, I hope it took out a bunch of the researchers.
49 posted on 04/11/2003 6:57:40 PM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: aristeides
They have looked at cats, rats and mice, and blamed cockroaches and leaky sewage for spreading the infection.

But, doctors say, the most likely culprits are people -- spreading germs through sneezing, wiping their noses with their hands, coughing, and touching elevator buttons and telephones.

They are blaming everything except the Chinese !

50 posted on 04/11/2003 7:04:00 PM PDT by ex-Texan (primates capitulards toujours en quete de fromage!)
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To: duk
It has me worried. It is expanding in Florida rapidly and with the large number of people who visit from Ontario who may or may not be carriers, I'm somewhat concerned. If Florida were to experience an outbreak like Toronto, what's left of our tourism industry would crumble.
51 posted on 04/11/2003 7:05:58 PM PDT by Beck_isright ("QUAGMIRE" - French word for unable to find anyone to surrender to)
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To: homeagain balkansvet
here are the sources you wanted.

SARS, IN ROOM 911 OF METROPOLE HOTEL:

http://www.vidyya.com/vol5/v5i99_3.htm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A48905-2003Mar29.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2905665.stm


52 posted on 04/11/2003 7:06:07 PM PDT by MatthewViti
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To: Ronin
If that is the case. I will teach my three year old nephew to curse the PRC.
53 posted on 04/11/2003 7:12:01 PM PDT by CathyRyan
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To: MatthewViti

Thank you.

And why are we shouting?


54 posted on 04/11/2003 7:12:51 PM PDT by Nita Nupress (SHOULD WE SHOUT HERE ALSO?)
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To: Nita Nupress

for those FR members who have a hard time seeing small type. O:-)

LOL!!!!

55 posted on 04/11/2003 7:15:32 PM PDT by MatthewViti
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To: Beck_isright
I'm no bioweapon expert (but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night), it would seem to be the perfect starting point

Bzzzzzzt!

Try the Guolong (sp?) Province in China you people!

(NOBODY on the internet does RESEARCH any more.)

56 posted on 04/11/2003 7:16:35 PM PDT by _Jim ( // NASA has a better safety record than NASCAR \\)
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To: Nita Nupress
I agree ......

I would rather whisper .....

57 posted on 04/11/2003 7:17:18 PM PDT by ex-Texan (primates capitulards toujours en quete de fromage!)
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To: mvpel
Fortunately most chinese weapons aren't very effective.
58 posted on 04/11/2003 7:20:20 PM PDT by snooker
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To: Diogenesis
Downloaded; will read tomorrow. Many thanks.
59 posted on 04/11/2003 7:26:55 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: CathyRyan
The flu of 1918 was 2.5 - 2.7 death rate and they are still talking about that one.

WHO has changed their reporting format. They now break it down by deaths and recoveries. The April 11 worldwide figures are 2890 cases, 116 deaths, 1373 recoveries. Going by deaths/cases, we get 4%.

But going by "final resolution" (did he recover or did he die), we get 116 / (116 + 1373) = closer to 8% death rate.

Excluding Communist bloc countries, and their suspect reporting, the numbers start looking uglier. In Canada, we have 10 deaths and 25 recoveries, Singapore 9 deaths 77 recoveries, Thailand 2 deaths 5 recoveries. If this breaks out into a global pandemic, we're looking at Black Death casualty figures

60 posted on 04/11/2003 7:27:25 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Heavily armed, easily bored, and off my medication)
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