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'BULL DURHAM' STAR RESPONDS TO CRITICISM
KFMB TV CBS ^ | 04-11-2003

Posted on 04/11/2003 10:29:45 AM PDT by new cruelty

Not every screwball in the Hall of Fame is a baseball.

One of them just happens to be its president.

That would be Dale Petroskey, and after this latest mess, there's reason to wonder how much longer he will hold on to that exalted position.

Petroskey, a former assistant press secretary in the Reagan administration, wrote a letter Monday to actor Tim Robbins informing him the hall was canceling a 15th anniversary celebration of the movie "Bull Durham" scheduled for April 26-27 at Cooperstown.

Had Petroskey deep-sixed Robbins for a barely credible throwing motion while portraying fireballing right-hander Nuke LaLoosh in the movie, that would have been one thing. Instead, the hall boss cited Robbins' anti-war stance.

He said the actor's "very public criticism of President Bush ... helps undermine the U.S. position, which ultimately could put our troops in even more danger."

This is how far wide of the plate that pitch was delivered: Just a few days before Petroskey wrote the letter, sailors aboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt told a reporter that to lift spirits, they increasingly tuned out the news in favor of lighter entertainment. One of their favorites, naturally, was "Bull Durham."

"I donated the uniform I wore to the hall," Robbins said. "Man, what an honor that was. Now I just hope it's there the next time I get back."

By Thursday, the actor was more resigned than mad. A day earlier, he dashed off a response to Petroskey, telling him: "You belong with the cowards and ideologues in a hall of infamy and shame."

Until then, Robbins and Susan Sarandon, his co-star in the movie and longtime companion, had intended to take their sons to the anniversary celebration. While there, Robbins planned to look in on the uniform, part of the hall's "Baseball in the Movies" exhibit. Now they won't be going anywhere near the place.

"This was just a celebration, a chance to see some friends from the movie and make what's become almost an annual trip with our boys," Sarandon said.

"I'm not sure what he was so scared about. As far as I knew, we weren't speaking. I wasn't even planning to wear makeup. And to politicize baseball is to violate the spirit of what it's all about."

Indeed, major league baseball distanced itself almost immediately, saying in a statement it had "nothing to do with the Hall of Fame event."

"It is not our practice to make political statements," spokesman Rich Levin added.

Petroskey, who became president four years ago, was unavailable for comment. But hall spokesman Jeff Idelson said, "The letter stands for itself." He added that 5,000 e-mails poured in Thursday alone, both pro and con.

"It's too early to sort them out," he said. "Suffice it to say we're an emotional venue."

Baseball's place in American life, while hardly as prominent as it was once, still matters.

During World War II, President Roosevelt ordered the games to go on and Hall of Famer Bob Feller still recalls how scores were printed on the same sheet as the orders of the day and how most mornings, he memorized both before settling in behind a 40mm cannon on the deck of a battleship in the South Pacific.

When an earthquake devastated San Francisco just moments before the first pitch of Game 3 of the 1989 World Series, the city asked baseball to resume play as quickly as possible. In the aftermath of Sept. 11, the game provided an emotional rallying point in one community after another. All told, there are 66 members of the hall who served in the military during wartime.

Say what you want about the propriety of celebrities sounding off on complex issues, but Robbins knows plenty about the lore and history of baseball. He grew up in New York City playing stickball, stoopball and softball in the park and made the first of his four trips to Cooperstown as a 10-year-old.

He signed his letter to Petroskey with a reference to an old World Series champion: "Long live democracy, free speech and the '69 Mets - all improbable, glorious miracles that I have always believed in."

He didn't stop there.

"These kind of bullying, intimidating tactics have no place in democracy," Robbins said, "and certainly no place in baseball. I'm still wondering what kind of message they were sending me and anybody else who happens to disagree with this president."

On the plus side, Robbins vowed the cancellation won't keep him from returning to the hall. But he won't even start making plans to get there until the middle of the summer, sometime after an exhibit on "Baseball and the Presidency" has already closed.


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To: Michael.SF.
Local area code line shows busy for Petro--

888-number ringing twenty times and counting for "attendant".

Sent supportive fax.

Baseball's American and Robbins needs the beating he threatened the reporter with.

81 posted on 04/11/2003 1:20:11 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: bray
Perhaps they didn't want to allow anyone who has given up more "home runs" than any of the Hall pitchers???

Might you be referring to "Janet" Sarandon of Rocky Horror Picture fame? She is still living in a time-warp.

82 posted on 04/11/2003 1:37:50 PM PDT by Kudsman (LETS GET IT ON!!! The price of freedom is vigilance. Tyranny is free of charge.)
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To: Flurry
This is the e-mail to their public relations: info@baseballhalloffame.org
83 posted on 04/11/2003 1:50:18 PM PDT by Kudsman (LETS GET IT ON!!! The price of freedom is vigilance. Tyranny is free of charge.)
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To: Flurry
NO e-mail, But fax number is given or go to their website and e-mail them through that channel.
84 posted on 04/11/2003 1:51:57 PM PDT by Michael.SF.
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To: fuzzy122
Here's a snip from an account of Costner's encounter with Castro, at a 2001 screening in Havana of the film "Thirteen Days", which Costner produced and had a supporting on-screen role in.

'Though Costner did not attribute a specific political agenda to his visit and claimed to be "unqualified" to make political judgments about Cuba, he was clearly moved by his encounter with the Cuban President. "It was an experience of a lifetime to sit only a few feet away from him and watch him relive an experience he lived as a very young man," Costner said at a press conference on April 11th at Havana´s elegant Hotel Nacional. "We all live in this world, and we all recognize Cuba is a big player although it is a small country," he said. "My interests aren't as political -- my life has been chosen to make films. I think humanity is a great experiment. Who is to say ... [that] the United States is right and Cuba is wrong?" '

-from World Press Review 5/7/2001

http://www.worldpress.org/Americas/478.cfm
85 posted on 04/11/2003 1:52:53 PM PDT by xlib
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To: weegee
Actually, a lot of the crew think that Costner and Robbins are pussies. I tend to agree.
86 posted on 04/11/2003 1:53:49 PM PDT by big gray tabby
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To: Kudsman
Thanks
87 posted on 04/11/2003 2:03:43 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Saddam's Hiding In Tikrit)
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To: Kay Soze
You know what's interesting about this list? Most of these actors are either out of work, or long past their prime. Bonnie Franklin's against the war? That's really going to sway a lot of people! But there are two names that I was disappointed to see on the list:

55: Ed Harris

This one saddens me to agree with. Perhaps I have given Ed too much credit for his roles Apollo 13 and The Abyss, and not enough credit for pontificating garbage like The Stepmom. I hoped he'd have learned something about character from playing Gene Kranz, but he hasn't.

101: Tony Shalhoub

This one saddens me, too, for similar reasons. My favorite character in Galaxy Quest was Tech Sgt. Chen.


88 posted on 04/11/2003 2:05:24 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Athanasius contra mundum!)
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To: new cruelty
To quote Tom Hanks as the coach in the movie, A League of Their Own, "there's no crying in baseball!" Butch up, little Timmy Robbins.
89 posted on 04/11/2003 2:06:50 PM PDT by anymouse
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To: MJM59
Why are you surpised?

Their name suggests a need to hide

Here's snippit of some of thier many many rules"

"if you are generally supportive of conservative ideals, please do not register to post, as you will likely be banned."

I love this rule:

"Please do not post messages or jokes that could be construed as advocating harm or death to the president, or that could be construed as advocating violent overthrow of the government of the United States. The Secret Service is not known for its sense of humor."

Obviously they attract a below street level underground type of individual.

One whose life’s philosophy is so corrupt that it requires 48% of my income to make their lives work and survive.



90 posted on 04/11/2003 3:15:39 PM PDT by Kay Soze (For every 100 Osamas created in the fight on terrorism - we shall elect one more "W")
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To: weegee
I believe SaranWrap DID find boy Robbins during that Bull Durham filming. They have children but never bothered to marry, for what that's worth.....
91 posted on 04/11/2003 3:26:29 PM PDT by CarmelValleyite
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To: tell me
Does anybody know if Robbins ever married Sarandon?

Talk about saving face with one's children. . .

92 posted on 04/11/2003 4:29:03 PM PDT by doberville (Angels can fly when they take themselves lightly)
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To: Flurry
The 10 year olds played for the fun of the game. Those phony actors/actresses played for the big bucks which none of them are worth. Poor timmie...poor susie. NOT!!!
93 posted on 04/11/2003 6:13:34 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To: sheltonmac
While I don't know for certain what 'bullying' Bikers4Bush was referring to, when I read his post, the 'bullying' conduct that immediately came to my mind was Robbins rabid public campaign against foreigner and non-SAG-member actress, Elizabeth Hurley in Oct 2000:

see: Tea with Elizabeth Hurley


This Baseball Hall Of Fame flap is about Robbins no getting to be the star of a big party...boo-hoo.....in the case of Ms. Hurley, Robbins went after and try to destroy her very livelihood!!!!


Robbins feels righteous in trying to destroy someone who inadvertently acted against his one of his causes yet he screams bloody murder The Baseball Hall Of Fame merely opts to distance themselves from his seditious rhetoric.


Give me a break.........

94 posted on 04/12/2003 9:29:34 AM PDT by Zacs Mom (Frankly, my dear, I DO give a damn ~ http://www.goodolddogs.com/oldragged.html)
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To: new cruelty
First off, I love the Bull Durham movie, but I don't agree with Robbins political views. Petrosky could have handled it much differently and asked Robbins not to make it political. In light of the success of the war, most of the protesters have given up their protests. It could have been a nice celebration of America's pastime, baseball.
95 posted on 04/15/2003 8:51:20 PM PDT by patriot5186
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