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Church Leaders' Anti-War Message Fails in the Pews
Newhouse News Service ^ | 4/10/03 | Mark O'Keefe

Posted on 04/10/2003 8:23:57 AM PDT by Incorrigible

Church Leaders' Anti-War Message Fails in the Pews

BY MARK O'KEEFE

 

The Rev. Robert Edgar holds a photo of an Iraqi Christian while arguing that children are the most innocent victims of the war against Iraq. (Photo courtesy of the National Council of Churches)

 

It has been called organized religion's most unified anti-war stance since the latter days of the Vietnam conflict.

But public opinion polls show the spiritual movement opposing war in Iraq has had little impact on churchgoers, much less on the American public, both of which overwhelmingly support both the U.S.-led invasion and President Bush.

When former President Jimmy Carter, a born-again Baptist, wrote in early March that religious leaders had "an almost universal conviction" that an invasion would be unjust, the statement seemed self-evident. Leaders of mainline Protestant denominations, including the Episcopal Church, the United Church of Christ and the United Methodist Church, opposed war, and the Roman Catholic Pope John Paul II worked passionately against it.

Largely overlooked in all this was the reality that the flocks didn't agree with the shepherds. According to a February Gallup Poll, two of every three Americans who attend church at least once a week supported war.

Religious conservatives see this split as evidence that a sometimes quiet majority of regular churchgoers -- even in moderate to liberal denominations -- tilt right on many major political issues.

"The mainline churches have suffered a blow to their relevancy in America that will take them more than a generation to recover from," said Rabbi Daniel Lapin, a conservative radio talk-show host from Mercer Island, Wash., who speaks frequently at Christian Coalition conferences.

But the Rev. Robert Edgar, general secretary of the National Council of Churches, could hardly disagree more. In his view, the council, representing 36 denominations, is playing a prophetic role -- much as it did in the 1960s when it took a stand for civil rights.

"None of the Old Testament prophets had a majority," said Edgar, a former Democratic congressman from Pennsylvania. "My position is that prophetic voices are always way out ahead of the congregation. Those willing to speak out should not expect automatic enthusiasm. They should understand pretty clearly that the rank and file take a little longer to focus and to follow."

Bradley Watson, an associate professor of political science at Saint Vincent College in Latrobe, Pa., likened the anti-war position of denomination leadership to the tip of an iceberg -- readily apparent because it's above water, but ultimately misleading.

"The great iceberg of popular opinion is in support of the war, even among churchgoers," Watson said.

A nationwide survey March 13-16 by the Pew Research Center and the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life showed that 62 percent of Catholics and the same percentage of mainline Protestants support the war.

Luis Lugo, religion program director at the Pew Charitable Trusts in Philadelphia, called that "a significant gap" between church leaders and followers.

For years, other polls have shown mainline Protestant leaders to be significantly to the left of their members on the death penalty, affirmative action, defense spending and other issues. "Protestant church leaders ought to be concerned," Lugo said. "That's not a healthy long-term trend."

But for the most part, church leaders seem more philosophical than worried.

A former head of the National Council of Churches, the Rev. M. William Howard Jr. of Newark, N.J., explained that church leaders have "an informed" and "critical assessment" of the war and the Bush administration's justifications that church laity, relying on popular media, lacks.

While the religious right communicates to its audience through thousands of conservative radio stations, "mainline churches are completely out of that ballgame," said Howard, pastor of Bethany Baptist Church, a largely African-American congregation.

Howard said African-Americans distrust Bush, and their opposition to the war reflects that. Nationally, only 36 percent of African-Americans support the invasion of Iraq, according to the Pew poll.

On the other hand, the Pew sample showed 77 percent of evangelical Christians supporting the war.

Those describing themselves as evangelical or born-again make up more than 40 percent of the American population, according to Gallup polls. Many of their churches are independent and nondenominational, meaning they have few leaders speaking for vast networks of congregations. Some Southern Baptist Convention leaders have spoken out in favor of the war, but most evangelical organizations have been relatively quiet on the issue.

Their war support could stem from an affinity for a president who speaks their language of redemption and rejects the anti-war rhetoric of his own Methodist denomination.

It may also reflect differences in interpretation of Bible passages. Mainline Protestant leaders cite Christ's pleas for peace -- "If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also" and "Blessed are the peacemakers" -- in opposing the war. Evangelicals argue that those commands were intended for individuals, not the state, and that Christ spoke passionately about the responsibility to oppose evil.

This helps explain why the Bible describes Christ "rebuking hateful mobs, casting demons into the abyss and chasing religious charlatans out of a temple with a whip," said Joseph Loconte, a fellow on religion and free society at the Washington-based Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank.

Following that example, Christians should support a war against the evil of Saddam Hussein, Loconte and other evangelicals argue.

Among Catholics, disagreeing with the Vatican and American bishops is nothing new, said the Rev. Arthur Kennedy, executive director of the Washington-based United States Conference of Catholic Bishops.

"Look at the abortion issue," Kennedy said. "American Catholics are basically the same as everyone else, even though the church is constantly making the case against abortion."

But Jeffrey Marlett, assistant professor of religious studies at the College of Saint Rose, in Albany, N.Y., said the falling credibility of Catholic leadership is a factor in shaping opinions on the war.

"The church's sex crisis is percolating in the background on this," said Marlett, whose specialty is American Catholic history. "When the Vatican or the American bishops make statements on justice and peace, those words ring a little hollow now."

In Albany, Marlett said, Catholic parishioners are walking out on sermons declaring the war unjust.

"If folks don't like the message they're hearing, they'll move someplace else where they like it," he said. "The interesting thing here, for whatever reason, is that peace isn't selling well. It's certainly not selling like it did in the 1960s.

"Religious folks have favorite brands, and the favorite brand at this point is in support of the war."

(Mark O'Keefe can be contacted at mark.okeefe@newhouse.com)

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To: dighton
You always were fond of weeping and gnashing of teeth.
81 posted on 04/10/2003 12:31:26 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: 3AngelaD
I've known the Rev. Robert Edgar for over 40 years. He has been a jerk and Clymer all of that time.
82 posted on 04/10/2003 12:33:35 PM PDT by Temple Owl
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To: Incorrigible
Thanks--good article.

As a Christian, I think the National Council of Churches is an evil entity that perverts rather than upholds truth.
83 posted on 04/10/2003 12:36:37 PM PDT by k2blader ("Mercy, detached from Justice, grows unmerciful." - C. S. Lewis)
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To: Clint N. Suhks; xzins
The Rev. Robert Edgar holds a photo of an Iraqi Christian while arguing that children are the most innocent victims of the war against Iraq.

The truth is that children are the most innocent victims of having avoided war with Iraq. The greater tragedy was in leaving a worse-than-Nazi dictator like Saddam in power.

I don't know why anyone should be surprised by these liberal church leaders failing to understand foreign policy or human rights. They don't even seem to understand the theology of their own denominations. Or their own laity.

To me, this is yet another indication of liberalism in the churches. Churches are not effective in foreign policy or human rights and only do reasonably well at charity work. Let them instead preach the gospel, the one thing that no one else will do. What a novel idea that is, in the modern age.
84 posted on 04/10/2003 1:48:46 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Incorrigible
..the church is constantly making the case against abortion."

I wish!
85 posted on 04/10/2003 2:06:23 PM PDT by Bigg Red (This tagline should not be taken on an empty stomach.)
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To: Publius
Isn't this the same "minister" who is pro-abortion and doesn't give a rat's @ss about the 3600 unborn babies per day slaughtered in the U.S.? Unbelievable hypocrite....
86 posted on 04/10/2003 2:38:23 PM PDT by RooRoobird14 (It's purple Koolaid time for the "Blame America First " crowd!!!)
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To: Incorrigible
bump
87 posted on 04/10/2003 2:45:32 PM PDT by proud American in Canada ("We are a peaceful people. Yet we are not a fragile people.")
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To: Incorrigible
Might have sold a little better before 9-11 but not after. We've seen the fruits of the "peace movement" and they are devistating. Anyone who thinks that Saddam didn't have ties to terrorists doesn't have two brain cells to rub together and the proof is becoming clearer every day.

Church "leaders" had better figure out that if people aren't following, obviously they are not "leaders".

88 posted on 04/10/2003 2:53:08 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Incorrigible
LOL!
89 posted on 04/10/2003 2:53:59 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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To: Incorrigible
"They should understand pretty clearly that the rank and file take a little longer to focus and to follow."

Dick Morris had it right yesterday, when speaking about why liberals are wrong and can't see that they are wrong.

Morris said something to the effect that liberals are divorced from reality, and that liberal minds are "stuffed full of propaganda."

Theologians and liberals share those Morris identified problems.

90 posted on 04/10/2003 3:34:22 PM PDT by thinktwice
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To: DeathfromBelow
the open door - open minded church.

The UMC Bishop Melvin Talbert's appearance on Larry King prompted me to do some digging into the position of the United Methodist Church (of which I am a Member). What I found out was shocking. The leadership is firmly against the liberation of Iraq but they are for some things, such as....

Abortion

Gun Control

Gays and transexuals in the Pulpit

The U.N.

etc etc etc..............

I'm outta there!

91 posted on 04/10/2003 3:53:15 PM PDT by Extremist
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To: Extremist
I wonder if pastors who use the pulpits to promote the liberal agenda are on the payrolls of various left-wing groups.
92 posted on 04/10/2003 9:16:08 PM PDT by Kuksool
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
I am with you on that....when our priest got up there with his holier than thou sermon, I did walk out...but I did it towards the end of Mass just to make me feel better..lol

told my hubby I wasn't going back....but that is not right either....why let the socialist ruin my religious beliefs?

this whole thing about being "pro war" is stupid....

no one is "pro war"....

what most of us are are "pro usa" and "anti, anti-war protestor"...

93 posted on 04/10/2003 9:35:01 PM PDT by cherry
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To: LurkedLongEnough
I grew up an Episcopalian, but married a Jewish girl and have been living that life for the past 30 years. We belonged to a Reform temple for quite awhile, but dropped out last year because of the persistent leftist bent of the denomination.

However, if my wife gets too sad about not belonging, we might get back in, although then I think I would feel a personal obligation to become something of a thorn in their side.
94 posted on 04/11/2003 4:45:57 AM PDT by Sam Cree
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To: Podkayne
That is a great Lazarus Long quote on your homepage.
95 posted on 04/11/2003 4:49:35 AM PDT by Sam Cree
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To: altura
"I'd have to say it's more the leadership than the people."

Agreed. Even a good many of the parish ministers and priests are probably not leftists, though I suppose many are, also.

IMO, it's definitely a problem that leftists have infiltrated the church.

96 posted on 04/11/2003 4:54:46 AM PDT by Sam Cree
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To: ken5050
RE #42 Good for you.
97 posted on 04/11/2003 5:09:58 AM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: ZULU
As for the Pope, he served nobly in the overthrow of Communism in eastern Europe. However, he has demonstrated once again, it is time for him to retire. His stance was not just one of not supporting the war, a just war by Cahtolic standards, but one of active oppositon to and support for a vicious brutal dictator and continuing statements about Christian and Muslim unity which are simply out of touch with reality. Further indications of his growing administrative ineptitude extend back to the sex scandals.

I consider myself a fairly conservative Catholic, and dispite the pope's anti war stance, I don't lump him in with the left here. As you point out he was very instrumental in the overthrow of communism and the evil empire, and having grown up under communist oppression he knows first hand its horror.

The reason I respect his stance while having complete contempt for the likes of Jimmy Carter, Willard the Slick and the hollywood perverts is that he was one of the few voices who also condemned the slaughter of Serbian Christians in the Balkins. He also came out against the lobbing of cruise missiles into Baghdad in 1998, so he's been consistant. On the current situation I think he's wrong, but in John Paul II's case I believe he's speaking from genuine conviction, and not simply from an "Anti-Bush" viewpoint.

98 posted on 04/11/2003 5:11:36 AM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: Frumious Bandersnatch; NathanR
I also am under the impression that the Society of Friends is extremely leftist, almost to the point of endorsing socialism. They are further to the left than most of these other churches, IMO.

My brother unknowingly sent his daughter to a "Friends" school for awhile. He started to get the picture when the school one day provided all the children with T-shirts and sent them home wearing them. The T-shirts had Ronald Reagans face with a "no" symbol printed over the top.
99 posted on 04/11/2003 5:14:01 AM PDT by Sam Cree
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To: ken5050
Just read your post. We dropped out of our Reform temple last year for similar reasons.
100 posted on 04/11/2003 5:16:31 AM PDT by Sam Cree
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