[ko_kyi]

Well said, Labyrinthos. The harshest critics are always building a straw man to knock down.

I have never eaten as much fruit and veggies in my life.

What these critics seem to say is that we need more nutrient-free calories.

[Labyrinthos]

My three favorite food groups used to be beer, bread, and pasta, with veggies on the side. Although I will now occassionally have a beer or piece of bread (whole grain only), I haven't had pasta in months. Now I eat fish, poulty, cheese, eggs, beef, and bacon, with lots of spinich, beans, mushrooms, carrots, asparagus, cuc's, and just about anything green and leafy, When I feel like snacking, I eat peanuts from the shell, which provide lots of highly complex carbs, protein, and good fat.