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Fad Diets (Bashing low Carb diets Alert!)
wbz4 ^ | 4-9-03

Posted on 04/09/2003 7:04:52 AM PDT by Jimmyclyde

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To: ricpic
According to Michael R. Eades, M. D. and Mary Dan Eades, M. D. in their book, "Protein Power":

"The actual amount of carbohydrate required by humans for health is zero." Chapter 1, p8 in the Bantam paperback.
41 posted on 04/09/2003 7:43:08 AM PDT by alarmguy
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To: Jimmyclyde
My ex-wife used the Atkins diet and lost 200 lbs - Me...
42 posted on 04/09/2003 7:45:10 AM PDT by trebb
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To: AAABEST
I thought Atkins caused you to get a dangerous ketone buildup.
43 posted on 04/09/2003 7:46:25 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (They built the cardboard Baghdad in the desert to fool the Coalition, and then moved into it)
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To: ricpic
But without it you end up with some pretty droopy people.

Foolish statement totally unsupported by any factual data. Sugar (especially refined) does just the opposite to your energy levels, and screws with your blood-glycerin.

Yeah after drinking a pepsi you might be temporarily perky, but you then crash. Ever wonder why it's so hard to get back to work after a high-carb lunch? You now have your answer.

44 posted on 04/09/2003 7:46:37 AM PDT by AAABEST
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To: AAABEST
These "doctors" have an odd-ball love affair with carbs

This is a strictly economic issue: George McGovern helped push through the infamous foodgroup triangle in order to help out Archer Daniels Midland and the other wheat/corn/rice super conglomerates.

Nabisco, General Mills, Kellogg etc etc all get their cut too...

the diet food industry is the real scam: people get fat, they buy "low fat" food where the fat has been replaced by...

carbohydrates!!!!

so the fat folk get fatter and buy MORE "low fat" food, and the fat folk get FATTER STILL.

meanwhile, those who are not SHEEP know that this is a scam and follow Atkins...

think of it as Darwinian selection against those who believe everthing that passes as "common knowledge"

45 posted on 04/09/2003 7:48:07 AM PDT by chilepepper (Gnocchi Seuton!)
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To: sinkspur
Humans also don't need dairy, of any kind.

I agree that humans do not NEED dairy, but it is hard to enjoy a good cheeseburger without the cheese.

46 posted on 04/09/2003 7:51:08 AM PDT by wi jd
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To: AAABEST
"All that being said, there are things to watch for. One is you must take a good multivitamin..."

I will ditto that. Plus, I have found that I need some extra potassium also. I have always been prone to cramps and if I don't take potassium suppliments they come on strong.

But, I am 40 pounds lighter since Thanksgiving, so I think it is a small price to pay.
47 posted on 04/09/2003 7:51:32 AM PDT by ChipShot
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To: alarmguy
"The actual amount of carbohydrate required by humans for health is zero."

Then tell me this. Why did God make bread trees, huh?
48 posted on 04/09/2003 7:51:50 AM PDT by ricpic
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To: ricpic
Then class of food to leave out of your diet is sugar.
Pretzels, pasta, crackers, cookies,white bread, white rice, instant potatoes,jams, candies, etc.

Sugar is what causes High cholesterol, high blood pressure, hardening of the arteries...
49 posted on 04/09/2003 7:54:52 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (They have been warned.)
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To: Paradox
A common misconception about the Atkins diet is that the ZERO carb phase only lasts two weeks.

Right you are! Athins even recomends you eat carbs before any strenuous physical activity.

Atkins whole point is not to cut out carbs, just limit them. As a society we gorge ourselves on sugar and flour (carbs), while shying away from protein. The fact is, the high carb/low protein diet is the fad, started in the 80's.

50 posted on 04/09/2003 7:56:18 AM PDT by PaulJ
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
I thought Atkins caused you to get a dangerous ketone buildup.

Don't "think". Someone like yourself who engages in such activity can hurt himself and others.

To answer your question, ketones are not harmful. In fact they're a great source of energy.

51 posted on 04/09/2003 7:57:16 AM PDT by AAABEST
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To: skeeter
Read the Zone diet books. All you need to know.
52 posted on 04/09/2003 7:57:44 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (They have been warned.)
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To: Jimmyclyde
To lose weight and also reap the health benefits, researchers recommend a "balanced" diet rich in fruits, vegetables and complex carbohydrates, such as whole grains.

Having experienced tremendous results with Atkins, may I kindly reply, "F--- off!"

53 posted on 04/09/2003 7:58:26 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Pasta is bad? You got something against Italians?
54 posted on 04/09/2003 7:58:41 AM PDT by ricpic
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To: AAABEST
We can't for the life of us prove that the Atkins Diet is harmful in any way, so we'll use weasel words because we've been praying at the wrong alter for decades.

They're kind of in the same position as Baghdad Bob right now.

55 posted on 04/09/2003 7:59:43 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: ricpic
You don't "leave a whole category of foods" out of your diet. You reduce them. After the first 14 days on Atkins during which you are allowed 20grms of carbs, you are allowed up to 60grms of carbs.

I understand what the medicos are trying to say but there is a huge disconnect between their advice and reality.These are the same people who advocated NO FAT, eat lots of grains etc. in effect causing the problem in the first place, imho. The "rise in obeisity" is directly tied to the low fat mantra, the introduction of high fructose corn sweetner and the change in the weight table which immediately lead to more people falling into the "obese" category. It is a made up "crisis" by these food nazis and nannies.

Their "balanced" approach does not lead to losing weight...it only leads to keeping the weight steady. Most people such as myself, need to lose weight first before trying the "balanced" approach.

56 posted on 04/09/2003 8:03:51 AM PDT by Adder
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To: ricpic
Nope. When my friends come from Italy, I serve them fresh fresh seafood (whole fish is their favorite) and we make homeade pasta. I just don't eat any of it.
57 posted on 04/09/2003 8:05:14 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (They have been warned.)
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To: ricpic
Leave a whole category of foods out of your diet and there'll be consequences. Common sense.

Yeah, like all those ancestors of ours before refrigeration who lived most of the year on salt pork and corn meal and survived into their 80s and 90s.

We have animals further down the food chain to process vegetables and fruits into tasty and healthful meat. Why should we do their jobs?

So9

58 posted on 04/09/2003 8:07:54 AM PDT by Servant of the Nine (Did I say that?)
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To: Servant of the Nine
Shad up and eat yer spinach.
59 posted on 04/09/2003 8:12:16 AM PDT by ricpic
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I've been on/off/on it now since last Sept. and lost about 15 pounds in 3 mos.

But currently, my weight loss has plateaued (sp) now for a couple of weeks.

Anyone got any hints/suggestions how to break the plateau?
60 posted on 04/09/2003 8:15:22 AM PDT by Johnny Gage (We will not tire, We will not falter, We will not fail. - President George W. Bush)
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