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To: GOPyouth
Let me restate my argument:

If the press was saying there were no shots from the hotel, yet the tankers say they were taking significant fire, then someone is either incorrect or is shading the truth.

308 posted on 04/08/2003 10:21:34 PM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: Prince Charles
Could be both. The tank is under fire from near the hotel..., the driver swivels, sees a long range telescopic lens pointing directly at him, and he fires.
315 posted on 04/08/2003 10:22:49 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: Prince Charles
I haven't followed this particular story closely but it wouldn't require shading of the truth by the military. It is a question of judgement under fire, what they perceived. The truth may be something different, but that doesn't mean they didn't react with the best possible intent, self defense, under the circumstances.
325 posted on 04/08/2003 10:25:19 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: Prince Charles
This discussion started with Shep Smith's comments regarding emails he's getting saying that the reporters deserved to be killed for being in Baghdad.

Now, I'll take your statement and try analyze it. Some people in that building said they didn't see any sniper. That probably is very true. If this guy pulled out a gun, fired, then quickly moved, they may have never seen the man. This is not a big surprise that they didn't see the gunman.
Now, as for the military, they were under fire. Somebody in that tank or nearby spotted a sniper. This was either from the eye or from a sensor that picked up that flash/heat/or infra-red on that scope. They had every right to fire back. This is without a doubt.

But, this is not the reason Shep made the statement.

340 posted on 04/08/2003 10:30:47 PM PDT by GOPyouth (Heather Nauert and Belly Girl are all that are women!)
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To: Prince Charles
If the press was saying there were no shots from the hotel, yet the tankers say they were taking significant fire, then someone is either incorrect or is shading the truth.

Those are the two possibilities, yep.

Two further points of information: I've heard from a number of different people who were watching/listening to a BagCam feed at the time that they heard nearby small arms fire before the tank fired. Further, the Iraqi Ministry of Information could be exerting a strong influence on the remaining journalists in the hotel -- who have all been heavily exposed to Baghdad Bob's reality distortion field anyway.

Given that, I'm more inclined to believe the tankers.

350 posted on 04/08/2003 10:32:26 PM PDT by algol
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