Inside the hell of Saddam's torture chambers

The Times ^ | April 9, 2003 | Daniel McGrory

[RetiredArmy]

Sounds like Hillery's bedroom chambers.

[Savage Beast]

This is what these people have in mind for us. If Bush had not taken the courageous stand that he took, they just might have pulled it off.

[mvpel]

The people running the torture chambers at the jail were meticulous record-keepers, but somehow the peaceniks would have us believe that the people in charge of chemical and biological weapons weren't, and that the missing 10,000 gallons of anthrax was destroyed along with all records of its destruction.

[whadizit]

"....Alex Witt dimwit gal......that pee-wee brain..."

Are you talking about Jonathan Alter? He is just another bed-wetting sissy liberal who still has his baby fat!

I saw that piece and, surprisingly, he eventually came around to say that the U.S. would not target journalists. How painful that must have been for him to admit that.

[RetiredArmy]

To Post @ 38. I listened to an interview with an Iraqui exhile the other night with Greta. He spoke of Saddam in the early days. This guy was one of Saddam's nuke builders. He ran after the nuke plant was bombed. But, he spoke that in the beginning Saddam was a nice guy. Was not that mean or brutal. He said as time went on, Saddam changed and got worse and worse. Since I don't know and this guy lived there and suffered it, I will take his word for it. But, he said Saddam was ok back in the very beginning. That was back when we chose the side of Iraq over that of Iran who was holding our people thanks to the stupidity of Jimmy Carter. So, at some point you take sides. In this case we took sides over the lesser of the two evils. That way, you hope to neutralize one of them and you can take care of the other one yourself. But, the Iraq-Iran war kind of ended in a tie.

[nicmarlo]

Ivan, I know you've seen this post before, but I believe many here have not:

Scott Ritter: In His Own Words (9/14/02)

You've spoke about having seen the children's prisons in Iraq. Can you describe what you saw there?

The prison in question is at the General Security Services headquarters, which was inspected by my team in Jan. 1998. It appeared to be a prison for children — toddlers up to pre-adolescents — whose only crime was to be the offspring of those who have spoken out politically against the regime of Saddam Hussein. It was a horrific scene. Actually I'm not going to describe what I saw there because what I saw was so horrible that it can be used by those who would want to promote war with Iraq, and right now I'm waging peace.

[Kay Soze]

"One file being trodden underfoot involved an 11-year-old boy accused of “treason”. His crimes, apparently, included writing seditious messages on a school exercise book." "There was a separate section for women, with included in records in a red-bound book recovered by one man who clutched it to his chest for safekeeping."

Torture Susan Sarandon and Martin sheen instead!!!

[whadizit]

"...matters are handled locally..."

I know, but these people have got to learn about law and order and civilized ways of dealing with criminals. They have had no experience with it. It will be difficult, but we cannot, for the future of these people, sit back and allow them to tear these goons up like wild animals. I may be wrong, but that's how I feel.

[Ken H]

Just saw on MSNBC a walk-through of a prison torture chamber. An ex-prisoner said he was in for 8 yrs. for committing the crime of praying too much.

The MSNBC reporter showed some cells but then said, "There is much more to this chamber, but we are not going to show it." Just damn! Why not? The more this gets out the better. Oh, I forgot, we are too sensitive!

Oh man, I couldn't agree more!

The patronizing attitude of these networks drives me up an effin wall.

Report the whole story.

[browardchad]

I have a problem with the British allowing records to be destroyed.

I've heard Iraq experts say that records were usually made in duplicate or triplicate, for forwarding to regional and national command centers. I'm sure Saddam & sons enjoyed looking at the torture records.

[swheats]

Rare to find beauty in the midst of so much heartache and pain. A new day for those being tortured and deprived of life and liberty, May God continue to bless the Coalition's mission.

An Iraqi Kurd peshmerga cleans his gun, which has plastic flowers given by local residents of a recently liberated village stuck in the barrel, near the front line with Iraqi government forces south of Arbil, northern Iraq, April 8, 2003. U.S. forces staged an explosive show of strength in central Baghdad on Tuesday, blasting government targets virtually at will after trying to kill President Saddam Hussein and his sons with four huge bombs. REUTERS/Caren Firouz

[Freedom2specul8]

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[SevenofNine]

Scott lost all credaibity with me after he got busted try pick under age girl

SCOTTY SHUT UP

You should say something BEFORE

[Pagey]

"...These were not just the wild claims of those delighted to see the back of a cruel regime. Proof of systematic, state-orchestrated violence against citizens was strewn across the courtyard, with documents, files, signed confessions and interrogations being blown around by the hot wind..."

Well Well Well, I wonder what all of the Leftist Hollywood Supporters of Saddam Hussein think about these facts?Will they put it on TV,to let the world see how bad a human Saddam and his military followers truly were?I doubt it,but we'll probably see it on The History Channel in 6 months or so.

[Billthedrill]

"Ten thousand gallons of anthrax? What ten thousand gallons of anthrax?"

"Funny sort of bunker, what with a pool and all...want to go for a swim?"

"Oh...that ten thousand gallons of anthrax..."

[FairOpinion]

Scott Ritter: In His Own Words (9/14/02)

Thank you for posting this, I hadn't seen it.

How could anyone aware of these horrors be AGAINST us liberating the Iraqi people from this? Those condoning this, by having opposed us to stop this, are monsters, same as Saddam.

[Belial]

But, he spoke that in the beginning Saddam was a nice guy. Was not that mean or brutal. He said as time went on, Saddam changed and got worse and worse.

That's a bunch of nonsense. Read a little about Saddam's rise to power.

[SpaceBar]

Tuol Sleng Prison all over again.

[crobnson]

Three days ago I posted the following on another thread. As you can see, I agree with you.

I just had something hit me. I was looking at the USA Today. On the front page of the second section was a picture of anti-war (anti-humanity) idiots. I feel that people like Galloway and alot of the other ignorant idiots just need to have to truth thrust in their faces. Pictures, statements from Iraqis of what they have been through and witness and that they want this change. Pictures would work the best for the ones who protect their ignorance by ignoring the truth. Alot of us have changed our minds because we have read accounts and seen pictures of the atrocities. Of course alot of these people have built a personal bunker around themselves. Although I don't condone what aljazeera did, maybe our media needs to be alittle more proactive in showing the truth. Seems like alot of the anti's around the world and radicals in Iraq are getting the attention. Maybe we should swamp the world with the truth.

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All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

[the Deejay]

"God bless Dubya and Tony Blair stop this Demon Saddam"

Yes, however it's come years too late for the ones that have been tortured to death. (I never understood GHW Bush putting Hussein "in a box". That didn't stop him from all the living hell that went on in the country.)