[TLBSHOW]

___"I don't want to go overboard with this," said Klein, a friend of Pipes, "but in the 1930s there were only a few people, like Winston Churchill, speaking about the truth of the barbaric German regime and how making peace with them was not possible.

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John Rossi’s recent article in The Weekly Standard told us of Winston Churchill’s opinion of Islam. Here --- read this:

"That religion, which above all others was founded and propagated by the sword--the tenets and principles of which are...incentives to slaughter and which in three continents had produced fighting breeds of men--stimulates a wild and merciless fanaticism."

Is it time to listen to Winston Churchill?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/736443/posts?page=28#28

[spodefly]

Pipes is obviously an intelligent person who has studied the subject, and present his views without the watered down PC that infests other discussions on the topic.

[AnnaZ]

RadioFR's Unspun Interview w/ Daniel Pipes -- 3/28/02
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[denydenydeny]

Nice, balanced article.

[Dr. Thorne]

Anti-Muslim bigotry = wisdom

[patriot5186]

Pipes is not anti-Muslim - he's anti-Islamist. He's against those who use Islam as a political philosophy and wish to impose it on all. Of course, some of the groups that really are Islamists don't like anyone saying this to bring the issue out in broad daylight..after all, the more they can keep it secret the better for their plan.

[Gritty]

The advantage Pipes has is he not only has extensively studied Muslim culture, but has also been immersed in it as an outsider.

CAIR depends on their strident PC rhetoric to browbeat the logical arguments rather than face them with facts. They depend on noise and Western PC guilt to overcome opposition to this Islamist fanaticalism which wants to turn all societies into Islamic hell-holes as existed under the Taliban, Ayatollahs and Saddams of the world.

The Muslims are trying to accomplish this the only way they ever can and ever will - with the sword!

[Thinkin' Gal]

PROPHET OR RACIST? Islam watcher Daniel Pipes (Pipes Vs Cair)

Hmmm?

[antaresequity]

I was reading a thread at DU and found this insightful post concerning Prof. Pipes

One thing that I'm particularly familiar with is that Pipes is always careful to make a distinction between Islam and militant Islam.

Here's a quote from the editor of Pakistan Today:

"He does not bash Muslims,” said Tashbih Sayyed, editor and publisher of Pakistan Today, based in Fontana, Calif. “What he attacks is a fascist interpretation of Islam. Daniel Pipes, to me, is the voice of reason. Only time will tell—and God forbid that time tells—what will happen if we ignore a voice like Daniel Pipes’.”

I could go into Dr. Pipes' academic and professional credentials (which are truly impressive) but I won't unless you want me to, since that's not the point. The point is that Daniel pipes is a decent and reasonable man who has been the focus of a sustained and focused smear campaign by the good folks at CAIR. He knows his subject (radical Islam and the Middle East) as well as just about anyone on earth and generally makes valid points.

You said:

"While a reasonable might surmise that not all Muslims are fundamentalists and not all Islamic funadamentalists are terrorists, Dr. Pipes argues otherwise:

To me, every fundamentalist Muslim, no matter how peaceable in his own behavior, is part of a murderous movement and is thus, in some fashion, a foot soldier in the war that bin Laden has launched against civilization."

In fact, you have misrepresented Dr. Pipes. Nowhere in the quote you put forth did he so much as suggest that "all Muslims are fundamentalists." To the contrary, as I have pointed out, Dr. Pipes has repeatedly argued just the opposite point:

"I write about the Middle East and Islam with an intent to help Americans understand the complexities of these subjects. Toward this end, I emphasize a distinction between Islam the religion and militant Islam the ideology. I respect the former but abominate the latter as a form of totalitarianism. And no matter what CAIR would have you believe, plenty of Muslims - both observant and not - agree with me."

http://www.danielpipes.org/article/984

Also, he did not say that all fundamentalist Muslims are terrorists any more than I would say that all Nazis were mass murderers. His point that all fundamentalist Muslims are part of a "murderous movement" is one that I would be happy to discuss with you.

So, you see, while I may occasionally cite a source that I may, upon reflection, regret using, that is not the case in this instance.

[JeepInMazar]

Bush Nominates Daniel Pipes ***Moderate Muslims Welcome the Appointment***

[Luis Gonzalez]

"I don't talk about the religion itself," he said during an interview in the Philadelphia office of the Middle East Forum, a think tank he founded. "That's because Islam is not the problem. Terrorism is not the problem. It's a terroristic version of Islam that's the problem."

[patriot5186]

Pipes is clear as a bell on who the real enemies are...Islamicists. I wish other government organizations had this same clarity, like the FBI. FBI loses its way