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Oslo Mark II. More dead Jews to add to the list.

Perhaps he is no better than his father after all.

1 posted on 04/08/2003 3:48:21 AM PDT by Asher
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To: Asher
I was wondering why the Arabs in Israel, who are right now attacking our troops in Iraq, and burning American Flags, promising more terrorism against Americans around the world, being given a chunk of Israel so they can have a place to make weapons?

Why don't we just declare the terrorists, terrorists and be done with it?
2 posted on 04/08/2003 3:53:29 AM PDT by American in Israel (Right beats wrong)
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You forgot to choose "Editorial" in your topics list.
4 posted on 04/08/2003 3:58:24 AM PDT by Cagey
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To: Asher
Go kill them all then if you do not want to deal with them.
6 posted on 04/08/2003 4:02:10 AM PDT by Iwentsouth
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To: Asher
Israel has no better friend than the US government, and more importantly the American people. I suggest that everyone give this process a bit more time to develop before condeming it.

JMO.
7 posted on 04/08/2003 4:03:29 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (Saddam is a dead man)
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To: Asher
Send the pl(whatevers) to Iraq.
8 posted on 04/08/2003 4:05:03 AM PDT by Havoc (Excersize your iq muscles, read Coulter)
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This is just diplomat speak. Trying to throw a bone to the 'arab street.' All it will take is a few more bombings after this new dude is installed and the 'road map' will be dead.

I thought something I read down the thread was interesting. Maybe it would be good to GIVE them a state. Then they could declare war on Israel and Israel could then wipe them out.
17 posted on 04/08/2003 4:38:09 AM PDT by johnb838 (Understand the root causes of American anger)
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To: Asher; Just mythoughts
"divide the land for a price" = Pali [Emim] state in Yesha = abomination that brings desolation, brought on by "those who do wickedly against the [land] covenant"
41 posted on 04/08/2003 5:50:24 AM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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50 posted on 04/08/2003 6:05:28 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (Saddam is a dead man)
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"We're on a road to nowhere"

- Talking Heads
90 posted on 04/08/2003 7:31:07 AM PDT by ConservativeConvert
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" Perhaps he is no better than his father after all."

Great, another Chicken Little, sky's falling, newbie logging on to relieve himself of his fear that Bush is selling us all out. Haven't seen one of those in a long time…

The road map's garbage, but Bush has ended up playing diplomacy to our advantage each time.

93 posted on 04/08/2003 7:34:00 AM PDT by elfman2
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The new Palestinian 'Prime Minister' is already admitting the impossibility of implementing the 'Road Map':

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/888036/posts

The old Egyptian terrorist Arafat will let go of power only when it is pried from his cold dead hands.

Why any seemingly reasonable human being thinks that you can negotiate with such implacable bloodthirsty enemies is beyond me.
99 posted on 04/08/2003 7:40:22 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Asher; American in Israel; Piranha; elfman2
Gog is coming against The Land.


Ezekiel 38
18 "And it will come to pass at the same time, when Gog comes against the land of Israel," says the Lord GOD, "that My fury will show in My face. 19 For in My jealousy and in the fire of My wrath I have spoken: "Surely in that day there shall be a great earthquake in the land of Israel, 20 so that the fish of the sea, the birds of the heavens, the beasts of the field, all creeping things that creep on the earth, and all men who are on the face of the earth shall shake at My presence. The mountains shall be thrown down, the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.'

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111 posted on 04/08/2003 7:57:18 AM PDT by Jeremiah Jr
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Bush: 'We are committed to the Road Map'

Great!

Oh, wait. There's a teensy problem. Arafat isn't:

Tripped up by Arafat premier designate Abu Mazen may pull out rather than present cabinet

190 posted on 04/08/2003 9:56:16 AM PDT by Stultis
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I'm pro-Israel. Outside of complexities of history which I believe are clearly on their side, they are the only civilized bunch over there.
I was initially against the road map, but let me tell you what changed my mind. If you read it, its cagey. It demands free elections of a prime minister, something they will never do. I think it could be a brilliant political calculation: heck, if they do have a free election, they will solve their problems plotically and the killing will stop. If they don't, they will be shown for the terrorists that they are....give it a chance
202 posted on 04/08/2003 10:37:06 AM PDT by Scarlet_Pimpernil
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One thing everybody might be overlooking: Israel could declare war on a state; you can't really declare war on a bunch of hoodlums living in UN concentration camps...
225 posted on 04/08/2003 11:24:33 AM PDT by martianagent
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Perhaps he is no better than his father after all.

What do you advocate? Push the Palestinians into the sea?

232 posted on 04/08/2003 11:48:30 AM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts)
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Basic question - Is one for Bush or against him? In foreign relations, the President states American interests. It is unpatriotic to oppose Bush in war, and it is unpatriotic to oppose Bush in peace. American interests first, please.
242 posted on 04/08/2003 12:15:09 PM PDT by ex-snook (American jobs needs balanced trade - WE BUY FROM YOU, YOU BUY FROM US)
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Pres. Bush--Drop the road map on the floor and back away verrrry slooooowly.


298 posted on 04/09/2003 12:47:03 AM PDT by Gal.5:1 (The God of Israel.........IS God)
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There will never be peace between Jews and Arabs, never.
404 posted on 04/12/2003 12:05:42 AM PDT by ladyinred
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It is very hard to separate the chaff from the wheat in this situation. Yes, our war is with terrorism, not Islam. Because we believe that a man is free to choose who he will serve when it comes to God.

But on the other side, Islam is at war with us, their creed teaches them they must subjugate all of the world to Islam by force.

Yes, our battle is with Islam because IT has caused the terrorism. When Islam stops producing terrorism and war, we will stop being at war with it because Islam is not the focus, terrorism is.

It is not an Arab problem, it is a death cult problem. But as long as the Arabs give themselves over to the death cult and attack us, it IS an Arab problem. A very big problem for them.

It is not a Jewish problem, it is because Israel is surrounded by Islamic Police States that it has become a Jewish problem.

The various evil-dictators lie to their subjects to control them, it is after all what evil people do. Good people do not become dictators in the first place. So until Terrorism is defeated by destroying the dictators that are intentionally spawning it, we will continue to be at war. Not by choice, but because the only other option is to be destroyed by them. The Dictators USE Islam and torture and power to whip up an army of rabble.

Right in the teachings of Islam it says that if your infidel neighbor is too powerful, do not attack him until you are powerful enough to destroy him. Make treaties with him until you are powerful enough.

So a simple solution that will not require us to become the dictators of the world, (thereby evil winning the war but loosing the battle), is to do exactly what Bush and Blair are doing. They are stomping the strongmen of Islam with "shock and awe".

Islam will back down, when the incredibly thick headed cultists learn their lesson. They will make treaties and will once again try to come up with super weapons and armies to destroy the world.

But a free nation will always out perform and out produce and out fight a religious cult run kleptocracy. As long as we remain a good and free people, they will never be able to overcome us by evil.

But it is when we play with evil that we become weak and forget that the hounds are at the door, ever willing and ever wanting to tear us to pieces.

America, as long as it remains a home to good Christians can remain as it always was, a free secular government. But when the secularists are allowed to dictate that good men are not free, then we crumble from within. "When the wicked rule, the righteous groan". Our Anti-God, pro Abortion, pro Sexual perversion modern society has weakened us. Will we learn that freedom means freedom for all? Or will we continue to make special laws favoring evil and outlawing good? That is the core of the war, the reason we are fighting.

Islam is not illegal in schools, in fact Satanism is not Illegal, but Christianity is. You do not hear of homosexuals loosing Jobs because of what they do, but you hear of Christians being hounded out of jobs, schools, etc.

It is because Christians are not dictators and evil men are.

Our country was formed in the name of the freedom to worship God as a man saw fit. It was formed under God. It was not formed that man could worship man, or that men could kill one another in the name of "choice".

Just like there are holocaust deniers, there are those who deny that America was founded as a Christian Nation.

But then, lying is what evil men do. Because evil men come to believe their own lies, is why we are at war. The Moslems in Arabia actually believed what Al Jezeria said, they were SHOCKED when reality forced its way into their lives.

Reality, what a concept.
412 posted on 04/12/2003 1:21:59 AM PDT by American in Israel (Right beats wrong)
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