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Bush Mix of God and War Grates on Many Europeans
AP via Yahoo News ^ | 4/4/03 | Tom Heneghan

Posted on 04/06/2003 10:08:46 AM PDT by marshmallow

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To: marshmallow
>>Bush Mix of God and War Grates on Many Europeans<<

Tough titty.

61 posted on 04/06/2003 11:58:58 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: Jim Noble
If we really want to get them in a tizzy, we should revive the motto that led the American Revolution:

"No King but Jesus!"

62 posted on 04/06/2003 12:05:17 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: marshmallow
No less than the German president, French prime minister and Belgian foreign minister have joined religious leaders in expressing concern about Bush's beliefs and the place of religion in U.S. politics

The problem is while Jesus Christ is in the hearts of many who fight this war some of the people and these countrys choose to have their god in a book or a religion instead of truly allowing Christ into their lives they call on him when it fits the situtation and when they know Christ wouldnt approve they simply leave him behind

News flash

Christ dont work that way your either for him or against him

Rev 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

So is bush pushing an agenda for Christianizing the world or is he simply beleiving in god the way god wishes him too

I dont hear him shoving religion down the throats of beleivers of other faiths or forcing out religions that dont fit a certain criteria there are still many religions in the states and around the world who dont beleive Christ is the one true God .

What i do hear him doing is Beleiving in Christ and asking for prayers for our country and troops and he should be free to do both as he chooses president or not he is a christian and our freedom to beleive in christ does not stop with the mantle of President .

63 posted on 04/06/2003 12:30:44 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK ("He is a moss-gatherer, and I have been a stone doomed to rolling." Gandalf)
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To: Magnolia
He's a Christian
Summing it up, he's NOT billyjeff

Clinton invoked God plenty of times to suit himself, like when he claimed that him getting serviced by Monica was a matter between him and God, and when he went to church every Sunday toting that huge Bible, and when he had his "spiritual advisors" after the Lewinsky scandal. But the difference between Clinton and Bush is that Bush actually believes in God, while Clinton believed in putting on a show of acting religious in order to fool people.

64 posted on 04/06/2003 12:37:41 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: NYCVirago
Clinton invoked God plenty of times to suit himself.

Ahh...and old Europe sees the difference between authentic faith & sham Christianity. They prefer the sham.

65 posted on 04/06/2003 12:42:41 PM PDT by Magnolia
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To: NYCVirago
No less than the German president, French prime minister and Belgian foreign minister have joined religious leaders in expressing concern about Bush's beliefs and the place of religion in U.S. politics.

There's always tension between socialists, who want folk to believe that rights are granted by the state, and religion where rights are unalienable and granted by the "creator". Nothing new there.

What is more of note is the "religious leaders" who are uncomfortable with secular leaders who are men of faith. The only holy war I've seen or heard about is the war on the unborn that marches on unfettered in Europe while the "religious leaders" yap on about the death of tyrants and murderers.

66 posted on 04/06/2003 12:48:18 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Magnolia
Ahh...and old Europe sees the difference between authentic faith & sham Christianity. They prefer the sham.

Exactly!

67 posted on 04/06/2003 1:04:02 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: jwalsh07
What is more of note is the "religious leaders" who are uncomfortable with secular leaders who are men of faith.

From what I understand, most of the churches in Europe are more tourist attractions than places of worship. It's no wonder that is, with leaders like the ones quoted in this article!

68 posted on 04/06/2003 1:05:28 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: NYCVirago
From what I understand, most of the churches in Europe are more tourist attractions than places of worship

Southeast France has a local tourist attraction that bus loads of Frenchmen visit on vacation. The online websites aren't always in English.

If Saunière was a Cathar then the devil supporting the catholic baptismal font makes sense. We must remember that Cathars regarded churches as worshipping places for Satan and the Catholic Church as the work of the Devil. They also regarded the material creation as Evil. For them an infant was a soul trapped in an Evil body.

The Cathar heresy was supposedly rooted out but to this day the biggest heretics in the history of Christianity AND western civilization are the French. The French have no problem equivocating good with evil and perverting everything good.

The Cathar heresy lasted several hundred years and took strong root in southern France due to the total corruption of the Catholic organization. It's modern day counterpart is seen in "The brotherhood of the Wolf" a recent movie.

Secret societies rule the European Continent and have degenerated European civilzation back to a medieval sans Christian mindset.

Christian Jihad is all that can help recover Europe. no mindful christian crusade can meet the purpose of saving Christianity on the continent from self-serving heretics, atheists and Ilamics.

Believe the islamics - there is no need to "assume they don't know what they are saying": Allah had no son, Jesus is not the son of Allah so there fore Allah is not the God of the jews. Case Closed.

69 posted on 04/06/2003 1:48:41 PM PDT by Podkayne
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To: marshmallow
Religion that puts God before state is anathema to socialists.
70 posted on 04/06/2003 1:50:28 PM PDT by Eva
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To: marshmallow
As an Athiest with a desire for strong separation of Church and State, it bothers me. But it's not that difficult to ignore or work past. I'm suprised that Europe has that much trouble with it.
71 posted on 04/06/2003 1:57:02 PM PDT by Zeroisanumber
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To: marshmallow
In Europe thou must not worship any god but Marx.
72 posted on 04/06/2003 2:11:32 PM PDT by DeuceTraveler
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To: marshmallow
I don't think it would be possible to care less what Europe thinks.
73 posted on 04/06/2003 2:15:13 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: marshmallow
"But this careless way of using religious language is not acceptable anymore in today's world."

God forbid, anyone uses religious language - it might offend the atheists, homosexuals, liberals, pornography lovers, etc etc.

Besides maybe this liberal trash might stick after all -

We tried to get him on being anti-abortion early on and found that the majority of Americans agreed with his position.

We tried to get him on his stance post 9-11 but found that the majority of Americans agreed with him.

We tried to get him on the war in Iraq, but now he is enjoying overwhelming success and support.

So no let's get him on religion.
We can tolerate him being many things, conservative, trustworthy, honest, compassionate but the one thing we just can't stomach is his faith.


74 posted on 04/06/2003 2:18:30 PM PDT by ODDITHER
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Hey we ought to drive these idiots nuts. Lets freep them all with reliigious letters, faxes and e-mails.

We will continue to pray that your hearts will be softened and you will be able to see the God loves you too.
75 posted on 04/06/2003 2:20:44 PM PDT by ODDITHER
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To: marshmallow
misusing faith

ah, like the Germans or the French use faith appropriately by taxing it and creating government blessed religions.

What a load of crap.

And also the Euros have no understanding of the superstitious nature of their lives based in ideologies serving certain people and gods of their own making. Their so called "realism" or secularism is highly misplaced when it does not expect victory but mediocre results only to self congratulate themselves on achieving their mediocre expectations. There is no moral clarity when one does not expect victory and one forgets that access to the benefits of science must come through people that can only be trusted if they believe in God and not themselves or other gods, ideologies and people. There are inalienable truths and goods in this gray world that self impose themselves. Whatever grates at Euro ears right now is what is going to make the Iraqis sleep better in the future hopefuly. Too bad the Euros cannot sleep well because the Iraqis can now.

76 posted on 04/06/2003 2:22:40 PM PDT by JudgemAll
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To: marshmallow
No less than the German president, French prime minister and Belgian foreign minister have joined religious leaders in expressing concern about Bush's beliefs and the place of religion in U.S. politics.

WHy can't the President be free to speak? That the US President shows his faith makes not America a theocracy. But that these maniacal idiots confining the world according to their pretexting antiAmerican hate "precepts" impose on the US their forms of unrepresented government is patent imposition of an institutionalized mode of thinking of their own that is not representing the people. And why do they worry about Bush's faith but not Jiang's, Stalin's, Hitler's or their own?

77 posted on 04/06/2003 2:27:32 PM PDT by JudgemAll
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Let us face it, anything Bush says is wrong. It is part of their cheap shots antiUS hateful propaganda and rehtorical excrement dug up from the Nazi cemeteries of Europe. Euros find nothing wrong with them and everything wrong with Bush. They keep cleansing, religious and ethnically cleansing themselves.


78 posted on 04/06/2003 2:37:35 PM PDT by JudgemAll
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To: ardara; MarylandPines
1."This is the way the Bush-fearing gang operates. They put words in his mouth and then denounce him for saying what he never said. We pray the president continues to invoke God's name whenever he sees fit and does not yield to those who tremble when he does."

2.Remember, socialism has replaced Christianity as the main religion in Europe. That is NOT an exaggeration; They'll even admit it to your face.

Exactly. While the socialists call for the usage of children and women to wage their wars and movements (it's for the children), mixing sanctuaries and arenas like no other fascistoid, paranoiac, murderous, fanatical religion ever, they claim Bush mixes religion and war, which he never did.

I have personaly a big problem when Euro socialist agenda indoctrinates and recruits in their sanctuarless government schools for their own personal political Jihad in this world.

79 posted on 04/06/2003 2:44:47 PM PDT by JudgemAll
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To: marshmallow
Even the notion that one true living Lord God Almighty exists grates most Europeons.
80 posted on 04/06/2003 2:47:48 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (Yes, let us allow the economies of gerdung, frunk, mexiztlan, chirushcom and canadastan to wither...)
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