[sauropod]

Yep. But the Jews are still the historical "Chosen People." As Christians we can never forget that. We should support a truly religious Israel. The secular Israel that exists today we must support while holding our nose.

[DensaMensa]

}But the Jews are still the historical "Chosen People." As Christians we can never forget that.

Why? What differentiates Jews from the Christians in the "chosen people" department? I think nice but naive Christians are being take for a huge guilt-driven ride with this carefully marketed claim.

} We should support a truly religious Israel. The secular Israel that exists today we must support while holding our nose.

Sorry, but why? How does secular Israel today connect with religious and historical Israel of old? To assume they are the same is a huge stretch IMHO. Having the same name is in itself meaningless

[saradippity]

I always thought that it was the Israelites who were God's Chosen.I also thought that some Israelites were from the tribe of Judah and thus were "Chosen". I am not at all sure if those of the tribe of Judah,who lived in Judea at the time of Christ were the people we now call Jews.I have heard that it was only because of difficulties in translating the Bible into English that the term Jew was used to connote those people who were religious Israelites,living in Judea at the time of Christ.Any thoughts,you seem to be very knowledgeable about scripture,I am not. Thanks.

[aruanan]

Yep. But the Jews are still the historical "Chosen People." As Christians we can never forget that. We should support a truly religious Israel. The secular Israel that exists today we must support while holding our nose.

Well, that goes without saying. The Gentile believers are grafts into the Jewish rootstock. Anyone who has read Romans should know that. Apparently, though, there are a number of Christians--and I have met some of them--who have never turned to that portion of the NT and believe that the "church" has supplanted the children of Abraham as the chosen people. I, however, was raised from earliest childhood to be an ardent Zionist.

[Illbay]

I've always wondered at this comment.

If the Jews are "chosen," then what is the point of being a Christian?