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To: yonif
This is a country founded on Judeo-Christain principles.

This is a country founded out of the Enlightenment, by Frreemasons and Secular Humanists who used Christianity just as Carl Marx, who was never original, later realized as a means of keeping the common people in their place.
We did not have universal sufferage, and Christianity was never taken seriously by the upper class property owners that had the vote, except for a minority of New Englanders.

It didn't become fashionable for educated people to be religious until the Victorian era.

So9

155 posted on 04/03/2003 7:12:35 PM PST by Servant of the Nine (We are the Hegemon. We can do anything we damned well please.)
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To: Servant of the Nine
Quite frankly, sir, you are full of it.
202 posted on 04/03/2003 7:27:08 PM PST by sauropod (If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy...)
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To: Servant of the Nine
This is a country founded on Judeo-Christain principles.
This is a country founded out of the Enlightenment, by Frreemasons and Secular Humanists who used Christianity just as Carl Marx, who was never original, later realized as a means of keeping the common people in their place. We did not have universal sufferage, and Christianity was never taken seriously by the upper class property owners that had the vote, except for a minority of New Englanders.

Hmmmm, Patrick Henry, George Washington, James Madison and even (probable Deist) Benjamin Franklin all seemed to take religion very seriously, giving it (at least) the utmost respect--all major founding fathers and none from New England. Jefferson's career was at risk when simply accused of being Deist (he wasn't....more accurately TJ can be called a proto-Unitarian) a charge he denied, by the way...

Of more than 50 elite founders, Jefferson and Franklin were the only ones close to being Deist...the rest, for the most part were regular church goers, many mentioning God (or "Providence") many times in their personal correspondance. The normal language of Jefferson and Washington, sound like that of someone deep within the "religious right" of today--which is why its so strange people, perhaps like yourself, are so distrustful and afraid of religious Christians today.

No one had ANY "sufferage" before the USA came along--as we were the first democractic republic since ancient Greece. The fact that it took a while for "universal sufferage" to be fully realized, doesn't tarnish the vision and ideals of our founders one iota...

You sound like you had too much of a dose of those unoriginal Marxist assumptions in your own education, in order to inaccurately portray the founders like that....

346 posted on 04/03/2003 8:30:53 PM PST by AnalogReigns
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