Jewish lawmakers threaten walk-out over reference to Jesus

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | April 3, 2003 | Diana Lynne

[k2blader]

Thank you!

I also believe the re-establishment of the modern state of Israel is a fulfillment of prophecy.

Just out of curiosity, do you believe Jesus is the Messiah?

[so_real]

BTW I recommend you read a book called "How To Win Friends And Influence People",you'll find the information he offers much more valuable if you dedicate some time to digging into it. I think it will help you immeasureably more than my advice which would be,"stop stop patronizing me".

You're point is well taken. As I typed my post I reckognized I had an edge to my point. Asking sauropod to defend the stance that the Jewish people are the Chosen People of God is akin to Bill Clinton asking his interviewer to further define the word "is". It's silly and I certainly held that belief as I typed my post. But I did try to soften my edge. Rather than insult you, I made the attempt to encourage you to do the research yourself instead. If that attempt has fallen flat and I've insulted you regardless, then you are correct and I may need to improve my social skills. But that does not excuse you from doing your own research.

[sauropod]

OK buddy. I give up. Everybody hold hands and sing "Kumbaya" for IB's sake.

Can't afford to be offensive to anybody. IB is right there with the can of air freshener....

[Hacksaw]

Ahh yes, Thor. Thank you for the knowledge, that is after all what we all need, no?

How would you like a hammer up your ass?

[katnip]

I am curious. Since you don't believe that Jesus is G-d why do you give His written name what seems to be the same honor?

Why don't you consider yourself Jewish?

Thanks.

[sauropod]

I do NOT appreciate being compared to His Slickness.

Monica never brought me any pizza!

[so_real]

What you don't have is the "right" to publicly offend when there is no reason on earth why such offense should be given.

You're not still on about that are you. Do you realize how many Christians you offend with your rhetoric in this very forum? Do *you* have the "right to publically offend" when there is "no reason on earth why such offense should be given"? Yes, you do. And everyone here will fight for your right to voice it. We will do the same for Christians in their forums as well.

[sauropod]

Thank you.

[so_real]

I do NOT appreciate being compared to His Slickness. Monica never brought me any pizza!

Dang it! Now I've offended someone else!

[sauropod]

Lighten up bud. I was being funny!

[Alex Murphy]

It is possible to give an "ecumenical prayer" which will be satisfactory to all concerned. I'm sure he knows this.

Honestly, I would say you're flat-out wrong or deluded. We all could name a number of groups (People for the American Way comes to mind) who would find any reference or action towards a personal, i.e. Judeo-Christian God to be offensive. He's an evangelical pastor. He invoked his God. And you're surprised and offended?

You don't hire The Osmonds, and expect them to perform The Residents' Greatest Hits. Why would you expect a protestant minister to invoke a God other than his own?

666 posted on 04/04/2003 1:55 PM MST by Illbay

ROTFL - Illbay, this just hasn't your day. Even the Gods Mods seem to be against you.

[so_real]

I should have ended my last post with a smiley -- again, my social skills may be falling flat -- as I did realize you were making funny :-) Gave me a good chuckle in fact. Though the comparison was that you were the interviewer being asked a dumb question and saradippity was Bill Clinton asking the dumb question. (Shoot, now I'm sure I've offended saradippity instead. I can't win.) I've enjoyed your posts. "Illegitimi Non Carborundum Est", my Friend -- Never Let the Bastards Wear you Down.

[CyberCowboy777]

If they do not want a Christian prayer why ask a Christian to pray?

This is sooo stupid.

If you want a middle of the road prayer hire a Unitarian pastor, not a Baptist.

It is a violation of the Christian faith to pray to G_d without Jesus. There is another issue with praying to a "god" and not Jesus but I will not go into it here.

Suffice to say either stop asking for prayers or stop censoring - the Government cannot censor prayer.

[Zionist Conspirator]

Jesus is LORD and part of the Trinity. The Old Testament and the New Testament are not two separate books but parts of the same organism.

Since I once believed exactly as you do but have since seen the light, you can muster no argument that I have not already dealt with in my own mind.

The chr*stian "bible" is an artificial, syncretistic mongrel work given to the world by the Catholic Church. The fact that your only knowledge of the Torah comes from its King James translation along with the "new testament" changes nothing. The moslem "holy qur'an" could be translated into Jacobean English and added to it (after the nt) and then islam would be "in the bible" just as much as is chr*stianity.

BTW, did you know that the King James translation originally included the Apocrypha but that it was gradually removed? So who was right, the originak KJV people or the later ones???

Kindly save any arguments you might have for someone who hasn't already moved from the falsehood of chr*stianity to the Truth of the Torah.

[Alex Murphy]

From your words, I would say it is fairly obvious you are not a Christian

so_real said this about Illbay. And as far as I can tell, (s)he doesn't even know Illbay, outside of this thread.

Ouch.

[Zionist Conspirator]

Why don't you consider yourself Jewish?

Because I'm not.

[Alex Murphy]

Simply invoke the name of Gumby and everyone nobody will be offended.........

Not true. The Blockheads would surely be offended.

[aruanan]

Just out of curiosity, do you believe Jesus is the Messiah?

Well, sure. As C.S. Lewis said (paraphrased from my faulty memory), "To claim what he claimed about himself, Jesus was either insane, on the level of someone who believes himself to be a poached egg, a devil from Hell, or G-d before whom we must bow. He didn't leave us any other choice."

[Zionist Conspirator]

You have every right to reject his argument "entirely" (or even partially).

What you don't have is the "right" to publicly offend when there is no reason on earth why such offense should be given.

I have no idea what you are talking about, as (so far as I know) I did not say anything offensive (although I did mis-type "pluralism" a couple of times!).

[ladyjane]

How would you like a hammer up your ass?

LOL.Thank you for your comment. It has been such a long week. It's Friday afternoon, 5:30pm here in Boston. I needed some levity and for some reason your comment was perfect! Maybe not perfect for this thread, maybe not a perfect response to the other Freeper, but perfect for a good laugh. I have to ask you though, why a hammer, why not a hacksaw?