POW Jessica was tortured

New York Daily News ^ | 4/03/02 | MAKI BECKER

[N8VTXNinWV]

That would be Ashley Simpson, sister of Pop singer Jessica Simpon.

[conservababeJen]

It's of my humble opinion that women don't belong in combat (in ANY capacity).
I'm also of the FIRM prolife belief that the baby is ALWAYS the innocent. If God forbid she turns up pregnant, I pray that she carries to term. The baby can be placed for adoption. It's too late for the morning after pill (someone mention that somewhere in this thread).

Someone stated in a different thread that it's very sad that we live in a country that would place 19 year old females into harms way. I must say that I agree wholeheartedly.

[dennisw]

Never say never ... to torture. Of course it works *sometimes* and is very effective and yields swift results *sometimes*

To think otherwise is foolish.

[Poohbah]

Never say never ... to torture. Of course it works *sometimes* and is very effective and yields swift results *sometimes*

About as often as I win the California State Lotto.

To think otherwise is foolish.

About as foolish as using the exceptions to make general policy.

[wita]

I don't have a problem with women in the service, I have an extreme problem with women anywhere near the front lines or back lines because the Jessica situation is what follows. This includes women in the cockpits of planes that fly in the war zone, unfortunately, the box is open and it will be tough to close it. This is bad national policy IMHO. I appreciate what Jessica has gone through and what she will yet experience because of her injuries, but it should never have happened to a young woman soldier.

[libertysdaughter]

Reba is WAY too old. Jessica will be twenty soon. They won't be able to find a non-anti-war Hollywood puke.

[Lee'sGhost]

A bit off the track this thread has taken, but I have a question. I don't doubt that the story of her shooting Iraqis is true, but HOW do they know that? Everyone with her was killed or captured. What's the source of that information?

[Poohbah]

Signals Intelligence heard the Iraqis saying "HOLY S**T, THAT AMERICAN WOMAN IS KICKING OUR A$$ES!" over the radio.

[Aquinasfan]

That is one tough girl!

I bet my wife would have fought the same way in that situation. Don't underestimate a PO'd woman. ;-)

[Hatteras]

"They won't be able to find a non-anti-war Hollywood puke."

It won't be about "Pro-War" or "Anti-War" anymore. It will be about women's rights and the power of women to break down the barriers in the military. That little war thing will be just an aside...

[Aquinasfan]

If she was violated, how do we who believe in the sanctity of all life deal with a pregnancy which may result?

It's pretty simple. Give the baby up for adoption. Should the child die for the sin of his father? Besides, she will have enough problems without having the blood of this innocent child on her hands.

[Lockbar]

I agree, I am not a "couch commando". I was in a front-line Army divison 30 years ago. All this talk about rape, possible pregnancy, abortion, and no aborting are way out of line, in my opinion. Why does every incident (like Lynch's rescue) have to be sidetracked into some kind of political argument (like abortion) that really has nothing to do thing subject at hand? TOO many other agendas always seem to stick out like a sore thumb.

[johnb838]

I don't want the girls out there because I think situations like this are much tougher on morale than when the guys get captured. Among other reasons.

That said, if this woman, this supply clerk truly started firing her weaponand continued to kill the enemy as all around her were dying and being taken captured, tried to fight to the death until running out of ammunition, then I think she should be put up for, (and probably will get) the Congressional Medal of Honor. She is now very much my hero.

I say she'll probably get it because the feminists in Congress are probably licking their chops over getting their first (I assume) female CMOH winner. But it sounds like she may deserve it.

[oyez]

We're doing the right thing by taking out Saddam's sick government. I hope the protesters take a good look at the electrical cables in that jail cell.

[M0sby]

There's that show on PAX TV with the actor that was the dad on Major Dad. There is a teenage girl on the show who is one DARN GOOD actress if she is not conservative. Can't remember the name of the show but it was a spin off of Touched by an Angel I think...
(I know everyone probably thinks these shows are dumb... but I am a "stay at home mom sap". Yes, I read books. Yes, I get on FR. Yes, I watch the news... but sometimes I watch shows that are just brain candy...So much time... so little sleep)

Anyway, I think this WOMAN is terrific! I still don't think that they(WE WOMEN) should be up on the front lines (I don't think it is an accident that she was apparently the only one taken alive)
But since she was there, what a great example of bravery! She could have just been a "victim", but she wasn't!

BTW.. any resulting baby should be put up for adoption (if she didn't want to keep it)... no need for one more death. Jessica has seen enough! Let the baby be a reminder to her that somewhere out there, some parents think that there was one good result of her capture IMHO (if it is even ever an issue)

[Lee'sGhost]

"Signals Intelligence heard the Iraqis saying "HOLY S**T, THAT AMERICAN WOMAN IS KICKING OUR A$$ES!" over the radio."

Seriously?

[Thoeting]

I have several friends who are retired military and who keep in close contact with folks still serving our country. According to what they were told and the very little bit they shared, she was tortured. The rescuers saw the battery and the hook ups next to her bed.

These Iraqis are monsters on the level with the German Nazi's and I hope and pray they are punished appropriately in this world. I know God will take care of the next world.

[January24th]

"I can't help but wonder why we allow these young girls to be sent to the front lines like this."

In this instance, because they fight like damn good soldiers!

There are some studies that seem to support the idea that women have a stronger will to survive, but men are more likely to give their lives for another. She wanted to survive, and brave men were willing to lay down their lives for her. What a country!!

[shhrubbery!]

Who gets to play her in the movie? It has to be an actress who is not an anti-war puke. Does any such creature exist?

My first reaction to your question was queasiness over the quickness to turn every dramatic story into a slick movie -- which then trivializes and distorts the story.

You're right, Hollywood must be slobbering already over the idea of producing this movie.

First prediction: Reese Witherspoon will get the role of Jessica Lynch.

Second prediction: Jessica's character will be made out to be a proto-feminist -- whether she IS, is in reality, doesn't matter.

Third prediction: Jessica's rescuers will be shown as an idealized multi-ethnic, multi-'gendered' team, no matter what the real composition of the rescue force was.

Fourth prediction: The Saddam-ites will be shown as angry, patriarchal male chauvinist pigs. (Perhaps Hollywood will even change them to angry white men? Nah, guess they wouldn't dare.)

At least some of the white men in the movie will also be shown as angry, patriarchal male chauvinist pigs.