POW Jessica was tortured

New York Daily News ^ | 4/03/02 | MAKI BECKER

[katana]

Reba's a bit, ahem, mature to play 19.

[wayoverontheright]

Jessica was being tortured.

Will THIS bring it home to the left that their espousal of moral equivalence between the Iraqis and us is wrong?

[risk]

WHY would it even cross your mind that the coalition is torturing iraqis?

It hasn't crossed my mind for for our involvement in Iraq because it has been very short; I'm not sure there would have been time for the question of torture to even arise yet. But in longer conflicts (such as in the Pacific during WWII) where the bitterness gained a momentum of its own, I'm sure there have been cases where Americans used torture on the battlefield.

I believe there may be many opportunities for our troops and our intelligence organizations to face these tough questions in the future, so it's worth discussing now.

This is war, and it's going to leave many who fight in it with issues that weigh on their consciences. I'm just a realist. People who have to face those issues in defense of our freedoms have my gratitude. Think about our forces being asked to take fire from civilians now. They have to identify a positive target before returning fire. That's tough! If a troop fails to live up to that ideal, I'm on his side.

[Fintan]

Hey, Kofi...don't you have something to say about this?
 

Nah. That would require guts and integrity.

[exile]

Kind of makes you wonder if a career in the military was a good choice for this guy. Last I checked, it was still a volunteer force. If he didn't want to fight, why did he join?

[Trueblackman]

All I will say is the girl has "balls" and stayed true to her Country Commander-In-Chief and the folks of WV. Every American should be proud of this tough little 19 year old country girl from a town that most of would soon forget!

[grumple]

Women in Combat: A political wedge issue under the Clinton administration to give credence to groups such as NOW and other women's organizations. THAT is why we have women on the front lines. If it had been Bush or a Republican, these people would now be out in droves criticizing it. But where are they

[risk]

Every American should be proud of this tough little 19 year old country girl from a town that most of would soon forget!

Indeed. When I heard about the ambush of her convoy, I was trying to imagine how it would feel to be there. I was thinking to myself that I wouldn't want to be captured, and that I would probably want to do everything I could to avoid it.

When I found out that was exactly what she did, I felt even more proud of her.

[Lockbar]

Its extremely pre-mature to talk about this stuff, but if a movie is to be made, why do we think she can't play herself, ala' Audie Murphy?

[AppyPappy]

If she was violated, how do we who believe in the sanctity of all life deal with a pregnancy which may result?

C'mon, give the girl some space here.

[pray boy]

In reference to your abortion question.

My response to that question is always

"If you want to kill sombody, kill the criminal rapist not the innocent child"

[RogueIsland]

Its extremely pre-mature to talk about this stuff, but if a movie is to be made, why do we think she can't play herself, ala' Audie Murphy?

I doubt she'd want to relive that, even on film.

[Wonder Warthog]

"Reba's a bit, ahem, mature to play 19."

Hey, with enough makeup and film artistry, ANYONE can look 19 (or 99--though I'll admit that looking 99 is probably easier than 19).

[Poohbah]

I think one has to weigh the situation and consider each case existentially. Let's say you capture someone and you know she has knowledge of where a suitcase nuke is located in a large American city, and you know she knows when it is set to detonate. I believe in that case, the end justifies the means. Our morality should never be used against us!

And the woman you're torturing will tell you what you want to hear, or she'll be a hardcase and use the pain to supply a mental focus, and actually use your own torture techniques to resist interrogation, or you'll screw up and kill her, and you won't EVER get the info.

[InvisibleChurch]

the theory was that he wanted to live in california for six months, gain residency, then be able to attend berkley for free

[bucephalus]

"We should not use torture except in extraordinary circumstances. And contrary to your holier_than_thou, there are some"

I appreciate your ad hominem argument. Why use argumentation when you can just smear someone? Is it "holier-than-thou" to be in favor of this war because it is the right thing to do, i.e. to think that our values are better than Saddam's?

[Poohbah]

We should not use torture except in extraordinary circumstances. And contrary to your holier_than_thou, there are some

Torture is not operationally effective, contrary to what you see in the movies.

[risk]

Torture is not operationally effective, contrary to what you see in the movies.

I could believe that.

[this_ol_patriot]

As I said in my post if this is not the appropiate thread to discuss this point regarding all women in the service direct me to one where this issue is being discussed.