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POW Jessica was tortured
New York Daily News ^ | 4/03/02 | MAKI BECKER

Posted on 04/03/2003 1:34:43 AM PST by kattracks

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To: InvisibleChurch
This guy, Steven Funk, should be Court Martialed and Dishonorably Discharged!
201 posted on 04/03/2003 5:52:49 PM PST by rundy
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To: BradyLS
What are you talking about?

Drinking?

Oh, OK.....
203 posted on 04/03/2003 5:53:06 PM PST by Lord_Baltar (God Speed to the Men and Women of the Armed Forces!)
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To: kattracks
She continued shooting - even after she was shot and stabbed and her unit members were killed all around her.

According to other reports, she was neither shot nor stabbed. No "entry wounds." That makes it hard to explain the broken limbs by another other means than torture. The people who did this are probably already dead (if they were at the hospital) or they will be soon enough.

204 posted on 04/03/2003 5:53:19 PM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Your point is very well taken.

Admittedly, my post #151 wasn't very clear. What I was thinking at the time was: Only an idiot would use the assumption that female POW’s will be treated better as a “reason” to support the concept of women in combat.

And I think/hope you understood my response in #179 was directed at the caller, not at you. :-)

205 posted on 04/03/2003 5:53:57 PM PST by k2blader ("Mercy, detached from Justice, grows unmerciful." - C. S. Lewis)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Jessica is going to have a very long physical as well as emotional recovery. I think we all agree on that...what caused me concern was that we (as a forum) are theorizing on the real life horror of on young woman...Do a Google search on Jessica Lynch...everything out there in cyberland comes up (more than likely even this thread). Are we, in any way, supporting Jessica, or any member of our military, by discussing such highly personal, emotional torturous events? What if someday Jessica or a member of her family want's to chronicle all that happened...do we really want this 'theorizing' out there in the mix?
206 posted on 04/03/2003 5:55:36 PM PST by PennsylvaniaMom
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To: Motherbear
"Because maybe they volunteer for it, and it's their choice to be in the army."

Ahhh..."choice"--the modern day god of liberals.

'Choice' could also be called 'freedom'. We like that word and it amazingly enough, means almost the same thing.

207 posted on 04/03/2003 5:56:35 PM PST by HairOfTheDog (May it be a light for you in dark places, when all other lights go out.)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
No, it isn't helping, and it is unseemly to say the least. You are right, and I hope it stops.
209 posted on 04/03/2003 5:59:19 PM PST by HairOfTheDog (May it be a light for you in dark places, when all other lights go out.)
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To: k2blader
Yes, that was understood. :~)
210 posted on 04/03/2003 6:02:00 PM PST by HairOfTheDog (May it be a light for you in dark places, when all other lights go out.)
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To: Motherbear
I really don't think this is a 'feminist' issue for Jessica Lynch. Her family was interviewed extensively by the local Pittsburgh media today. This didn't have an agenda, she came from a lower middle class background and saw the Army as a way to earn her college tuition. There are alot of kids who do that...the economy here in the rust belt isn't what it used to be. My oldest is a college freshman, and my next one is a HS senior this year...I can think of a dozen or so young men and women in each of their classes who went into the military for their further education (let's face it...the US gov't advertises enlisting as a way to earn college cash).
211 posted on 04/03/2003 6:05:28 PM PST by PennsylvaniaMom
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To: Lord_Baltar
Gee, did I log into DU by mistake...

*snicker* I was thinking the same thing considering the political correctness run amok. Maybe we're in the Twilight Zone, eh?.

I'm sitting here watching a bunch of people speculate on whether a Young American Hero, who was Tortured, Beaten, Shot, and Held prisoner by a bunch of blood thristy Animals, might be pregnant, and whether or not she should be allowed to Abort some Imaginary pregnancy.

Hey we agree... She's a Young American Hero.
We just seem to disagree about discussing what may or may not have happened to her. I'm of the opinion that we're on a discussion board so we DISCUSS. You seem to be of the opinion that since the topic isn't pretty that I should remain silent. Your wish was granted. You won...I agreed to not discuss it further. You should be flattered, I don't let many people win [insertarazzingsmileyheresinceIsuckathtml]. I respect you for saying what you're saying,I just don't agree and find your opinion equally as appalling. Now we can drag this out to post #5,748 and start up some fun colorful name-calling. OR...we can agree to disagree.

Spit and shake? or may i be the fisrt to say "i know you are but what am i".

212 posted on 04/03/2003 6:07:43 PM PST by conservababeJen
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To: conservababeJen
Jen, as I said before, I'm Truly sorry if you are offended by my remarks.

I'm simply appalled by what people try to justify as "Discussions".

It's not a matter of Political Correctness either, it's a matter of Right or Wrong. Sure, you folks can speculate on whatever you like, and if you wanna talk about it as graphicly or disgustingly as you wish, feel free.

Just know, I hope Jessica's Parents don't EVER log in here and find this discussion...

Again, I'm sorry if you were offended by my remarks...
213 posted on 04/03/2003 6:12:16 PM PST by Lord_Baltar (God Speed to the Men and Women of the Armed Forces!)
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To: Lord_Baltar
*biteshertongue*

Sorry if I've offended you as well.

214 posted on 04/03/2003 6:15:34 PM PST by conservababeJen
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To: Dark Templar
She wasn't supposed to be on the front lines, that was the problem.

She wasn't on the front lines, and if they hadn't take a wrong turn and gotten lost, they would have been with the convoy and would have been protected.

I am not blaming her or whoever was driving the truck. Accidents happen. It is how we react when they happen that matters. I don't know where the Washington Post got their information. Everyone else who was with her is either a POW or is dead. Maybe some Iraqi gave the info to someone who gave it to the Post. The paper said that the info did NOT come from Jessica.

I'm sure the libs will try to say that since she did so well, that women SHOULD be in combat, but I still disagree. What is funny is that all those who say that are also FOR GUN CONTROL here at home. Now does anyone think that Jessica Lynch learned her marksmanship in the US Army? Methinks she's been honing those skills for YEARS in the hills around her home,and if there had been laws against individuals having firearms, she wouldn't have had the ability to defend herself as she did. Even if she HAD had some weapons training, she wouldn't have had as much as the front line forces, so her lack of skill would probably have meant her death.

215 posted on 04/03/2003 6:24:28 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: unaffiliated1

Sorry you couldn't hang out a little longer. I don't know what all you did to get banned, but if it was just what I see on this thread, then I think the mods jumped the gun.

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218 posted on 04/03/2003 7:15:28 PM PST by TankerKC
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To: Motherbear
could no more have carried an injured man off the battlefield than I could have

You know this for a fact do you?

219 posted on 04/04/2003 2:58:49 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: Not just another dumb blonde
Good on that woman then. I'm glad to hear she didn't resent the child and "take it out on him".
A rare and unusual thing you witnessed, IMO.
220 posted on 04/04/2003 3:39:16 AM PST by philman_36
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