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UN Inspectors: German/French/Russian/Chinese refusal to back military force made war inevitable
DIE ZEIT ^ | 4/01/2003 | Von Jochen Bittner und Reiner Luyken

Posted on 04/02/2003 4:29:57 PM PST by Smogger

Could this war have been prevented? Yes, say some [inspectors]. But with a surprising argument: Germany, France and Russia made war unavoidable with their purported peace politics. Gerhard Schroeder's categorical 'no' to military deployment was simply "crazy." "We might have been able to fulfill our mandate," one hears in the hotel lobby.... The 120 inspectors noticed soon, though, that they would not reach their goal without the full cooperation of Iraqis. But they waited in vain to be approached. A warning presentation by Hans Blix on January 15 in the Security Council didn't change things. Iraq made its first concessions when Secretary of State Colin Powell presented sensational pictures, videos, and tape recordings of mobile bioweapons labs, rocket launching ramps, and munitions bunkers. And as the American threat of war became more and more clear and found more support.... Blix delivered a more conciliatory situation assessment on February 14. This was the basis for Germany, France and Russia to speak of "functioning inspections" and to increasingly distance themselves from America and Great Britain. The governments in Berlin, Paris, and Moscow felt confirmed in the conviction that their peace strategy would lead to success. The inspectors in Baghdad saw things completely differently: their position was suddenly weakened.... The officials in Baghdad only became more cooperative when military pressure increased. Rhetoric never impressed Saddam Hussein, the inspectors say, the deeper the quarrels split the international community, the surer he felt more himself.... Success was less a question of time than one of the credible threat of the use of force. [emphasis added] "Where," the inspectors ask today, "were the teeth?" More time, the demand of Germany and France for inspections, would have been well and good. But: "They should have sent their own troops and ships."...

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: germain; iraq; un; war
Okay here is the original article in Die Zeit, which is a German publication:

Original Article in German

Translation by Thomas Nephew on his blog

1 posted on 04/02/2003 4:29:57 PM PST by Smogger
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To: Smogger
Wait, wait, so these inspectors actually understood how and why they got back into Iraq in the first place? Betcha you won't hear this on CNN...
2 posted on 04/02/2003 4:34:59 PM PST by Terpfen
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To: Smogger
But with a surprising argument...

Uh, this argument has been presented countless times around here over the past few months. Not so suprising to freepers.

3 posted on 04/02/2003 4:36:58 PM PST by fhayek
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To: Smogger
On NPR Former Secretary of Defense William Cohen said the same thing believe it or not!!!

Cohen said that the only reason we had to go to war is because of the leaks in sanctions by members of the UN Security Council! The sanctions would have peacefully forced Saddam to comply but that because nations like France, China, Russia and Germany violated the sanctions; the war was necessary.


He further said that the war in Iraq is actually part of the war on terror!

This coming from him blew my mind!

It was on NPR ATC (All things considered) 3-21-03.
4 posted on 04/02/2003 4:41:33 PM PST by Kay Soze (For every 100 Osamas created in the fight - we will elect one more "W")
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To: Smogger

DUH!


5 posted on 04/02/2003 4:42:24 PM PST by Enduring Freedom (To smash the ugly face of Socialism is our mission)
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To: Smogger
Yeah, sure....the Germans, the UN inspectors, the Turks, some presstitutes, even some DemoRATS are climbing aboard the good ship "USS Victory".

Even some of the French stowaways will climb out of their ratholes in the hold just before the ship lands, wait and see.

Leni

6 posted on 04/02/2003 4:44:42 PM PST by MinuteGal (THIS JUST IN ! Astonishing fare reduction for FReeps Ahoy Cruise! Check it out, pronto!)
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To: Kay Soze
Of course, Cohen also has a lot of fence-mending to do, after being Clinton's butt-boy for so long.
7 posted on 04/02/2003 4:49:23 PM PST by expatpat
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To: expatpat
Old news to some, yes, but the truth can't be stated too much or too often.
8 posted on 04/02/2003 4:59:40 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: Smogger
Where were the teeth?

Biting the US in the butt.

9 posted on 04/02/2003 5:00:36 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: wimpycat; hchutch; Poohbah; Catspaw; BlueLancer; Dog Gone
Germany, France and Russia made war unavoidable with their purported peace politics. Gerhard Schroeder's categorical 'no' to military deployment was simply "crazy."

This was from the inspectors.

10 posted on 04/02/2003 5:57:50 PM PST by Chancellor Palpatine (Paleocons, the French and the UN - Excusing corrupt power mad dictators for decades)
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Germany, France and Russia made war unavoidable with their purported peace politics. Gerhard Schroeder's categorical 'no' to military deployment was simply "crazy."

This was from the inspectors.

11 posted on 04/02/2003 5:59:02 PM PST by Chancellor Palpatine (Paleocons, the French and the UN - Excusing corrupt power mad dictators for decades)
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To: Smogger
Weeeeelllll, isnt that Special!!!
12 posted on 04/02/2003 9:06:09 PM PST by Delta 21 (Gunner...SABOT... Tank.....)
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To: Smogger
A great big "DUH!" for Michael Moore and all the other France-worshipping anti-U.S. Clymers.
13 posted on 04/02/2003 9:10:15 PM PST by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, Zoolander)
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To: Smogger
btttt
14 posted on 04/02/2003 9:37:27 PM PST by ellery
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To: Kay Soze
The sanctions would have peacefully forced Saddam to comply but that because nations like France, China, Russia and Germany violated the sanctions; the war was necessary.

A whole new idea occured to me. The current assumption is that France, China, Russia and Germany had been trying to scuttle the inspection process because they have been involed in multi billion dollar contracts with the Iraqi defense industry and would lose what was owed to them if the inspections continued. This is a plausable, reasonable assumption.

But wait, what if they had different reasons for scuttling the inspection process? Another reasonable explanation is that they SUPPORTED Saddam's dream of conquest of the mideast. From their point of view, it would be easier to control the hords of Islamic fundamentalists with one regime in charge of the whole empire--providing that that regime was absolutly brutal enough--than it would be to control them as individual states. Saddam would fill the vacuum after the fall of the Soviet Union. And with Saddam in control of the Arab world, the US would have one more threat chipping away at its superpower status. Perhaps they are more afraid of the US political and economic might than they would be of an Iraqi empire.

Has anyone else thought along these lines without the super thinking power derived from a handy-dandy tinfoil hat?

15 posted on 04/03/2003 12:35:15 AM PST by powderhorn
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To: Smogger
Thanks for posting. This is very important.

We need to get it through some peoples' thick skulls that all this 'ANTI-WAR' hoo-haw MADE WAR MORE LIKELY, not less.

Peace through strength. It is a fundamental lesson, taught, most recently, by the great Ronald Reagan, who in the teeth of of all those 'nuclear freeze' marchers and America-hating Europeans, brought down the greatest oppressor the world has ever known.

16 posted on 04/03/2003 7:06:48 AM PST by shhrubbery!
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To: powderhorn
Perhaps you are correct.

But I am certain at the least it was in their nations financial interests to subject the poor Muslim Iraqi people to the dictatorship for cash and prizes.

It was NOT in the interest of France et al for there ever to be an Iraq without Saddam or his Baathists.

So they leaked through the UN Resolutions and sanctions for 12 long years keeping the US out and a dictator in.

Clever really.

It being done by France through out Africa as well.
17 posted on 04/03/2003 9:10:07 AM PST by Kay Soze (For every 100 Osamas created in the fight on terrorism - we shall elect one more "W")
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To: Kay Soze
It was NOT in the interest of France et al for there ever to be an Iraq without Saddam or his Baathists.

Yes, that is a central point that I forgot to make.

A power vacuum tends to get filled. The old Soviet Union: USSR. The new Soviet Union: Russia, China, France and Germany.

18 posted on 04/04/2003 12:50:49 AM PST by powderhorn
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