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Iraqis firing from Najaf shrine: US (Mosque of Imam Ali)
ABC News ^ | April 2nd, 2003

Posted on 04/02/2003 7:18:53 AM PST by Sabertooth

Desert sandstorm

A sandstorm turns the daylight orange as a US Army engineer crawls through the desert outside Najaf. (Reuters)

Iraqis firing from Najaf shrine: US

A US official says Iraqis have fired on US-led troops from inside the Ali Mosque in Najaf, an important Shi'ite Muslim shrine, but the Americans did not return fire.

The report could not immediately be confirmed.

A Reuters correspondent at Najaf says heavy fighting is underway around the city.

"The Iraqi regime's use of the Ali Mosque for military purposes is just the latest example of the regime's continued strategy of placing sacred sites in Iraq in jeopardy," the US official said in Qatar.

Najaf, about 160 kilometres south of Baghdad, is home to one of the holiest sites for Shi'ite Muslims, the golden-domed shrine of Imam Ali bin Abi Talib, cousin and son-in-law of the Prophet Mohammad.

Shi'ites are a majority in Iraq but Sunni Muslims, like President Saddam Hussein, have traditionally ruled.

Iraqi Information Minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf said Iraqi forces fought off the Najaf attack and accused the Americans of bombing sacred shrines there.



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Dispatch from the 101st

Mission: Take the city, preserve the mosque

[AP file photo]
Iraqi Muslims make their way to the holy mosque of Imam Ali in Najaf in 2001.
By WES ALLISON, Times Staff Writer
Dispatch from the 101st

photo Times staff writer Wes Allison has been attached to the 101st Airborne Division. He is living and traveling with the troops as they are deployed abroad.

Reports from a region in conflict

NAJAF, Iraq -- The order was simply stated, but not necessarily simple to follow: Destroy enemy bunkers, weapons and personnel to hasten the fall of this ancient holy city.

And do not touch the mosque. Damaging Najaf's historic mosque -- one of Islam's holiest sites -- would cripple coalition forces' efforts to win over the Iraqi people, and would further erode U.S. relations with other Muslim nations.

Backed by artillery, jets and a quartet of tanks, the 327th Infantry of the 101st Airborne Division attacked Iraqi forces for about three hours here Monday, seizing the airport and part of the city while softening fortified positions around the mosque.

More attacks with ground troops are expected this morning, with possible house-to-house fighting, and the Americans and Iraqis continued to swap mortar fire late Monday night.

Airborne commanders and soldiers who fought there say they destroyed several bunkers, gun emplacements and buildings housing Iraqi gunmen. A helicopter and gun truck from No Slack, the nickname for the 2nd Battalion, 327th Infantry, also destroyed three of the six known Iraqi howitzers guarding the town.

A team from the 1st Battalion seized 7,000 rifles hidden in a cache on the outskirts of town.

"We weakened their defenses, we crushed their morale, and now we're going to take advantage of that by going in there and taking it straight to them," Lt. Col. Chris Hughes, the 2nd Battalion commander, said early this morning after planning for today's assault.

But as American commanders underscored Monday, blasting away near the Najaf mosque and its cemetery is dicey work. For Muslims, only Mecca is more sacred, and they believe the cemetery is the final resting place of Noah, Adam and Ali, the cousin of the prophet Mohammad.

The Imam Ali mosque is in fact named after the prophet's cousin. Its golden dome is the dominant landmark of the city and is visible for miles. Before and during the battle, Hughes and his staff repeatedly pushed the importance of protecting the mosque and cemetery.

"As this unfolds here, I want you guys to take your time," Lt. Col. Chris Hughes, commander of the 2nd Battalion of the 327th Infantry, told his guys over the radio. "This isn't a big thunder run."

Najaf commands a steep-sided plateau overlooking the desert floor, giving Iraqi forces a strategic view to the south and west, including a key coalition supply line.

The 2nd Battalion's attack was designed to weaken the chain of bunkers, caves and other defensive positions carved into the escarpment before its infantrymen enter the city.

Meanwhile, the brigade's 1st Battalion took a suburb on the southwest side of town, and the 3rd Battalion took the airfield. U.S. forces to the north have been plagued by clogged supply lines, and owning an airfield at Najaf would help Americans and British in their advance toward Baghdad.

No American casualties were reported Monday. The extent of Iraqi casualties was unclear Monday night, but soldiers from the 2nd Battalion who participated said they destroyed several buildings and bunkers where gunmen were hidden. They estimated they killed at least 15.

The operation unfolded methodically. Special Forces have worked around the city for weeks, identifying probable Iraqi gun emplacements, bunkers and government strongholds.

First, fire from the Airborne's 105mm and 155mm howitzers rhythmically played on the edge of the escarpment below the mosque.

Shortly afterward, a pair of Air Force F-16s dropped 500-pound bombs on suspected bunkers. Several more airstrikes followed, then Capt. Tom Ehrhart of West Chester, Pa., commander of 2nd Battalion's Delta Company, led his gun trucks down a narrow paved road to the base of the plateau.

His lightly armored Humvees are rigged with heavy machine guns, grenade launchers and antitank missiles. They drew fire from above almost immediately.

A platoon of four tanks borrowed from the 1st Armored Division of Fort Riley, Kan., followed the gun trucks, pumping .50-caliber rounds and occasional shells into pillboxes and other fighting positions.

An enemy rocket-propelled grenade or mortar struck one tank, but bounced off harmlessly.

"We went through the sandbags, but they were up so high we couldn't tell" who or what was behind them, Lt. Brian Hawley, 23, of Brewster, N.Y., the platoon leader, said afterward.

Ehrhart's trucks were continuously harried by machine gunners in a large, white brick building near the cemetery.

The Air Force finally flattened the white building, revealing three 105mm howitzers behind it -- all promptly destroyed.

Even as they took and returned fire, the American commanders reminded each other to avoid the mosque and cemetery. U.S. forces believe 150 militants have taken refuge in the mosque.

"We want the people in the town to turn against them," said Maj. Jim Crider, No Slack's operations officer.

At one point during the battle, Hughes told Ehrhart to stop firing at gunmen because he was getting too close to the mosque.

"Let the (Kiowa Warriors) work it for you, they can see it much better," Hughes said over the radio.

Later, as the attack slowed, civilians carrying white flags began converging on the mosque for evening prayers. Their presence stopped a Kiowa from blasting a mined berm and quieted the gun trucks.

"You guys be very careful up there," Hughes ordered. "Don't fire unless you're fired upon."

Najaf is being defended by Iraqi soldiers, including members of the Special Republican Guard, as well as officials with Saddam Hussein's ruling Baath Party and the fedayeen, known for their fierce loyalty to Hussein.

The 3rd Infantry Division surrounded the town almost two weeks ago, but American commanders were content simply to contain it, occasionally probing outer neighborhoods with their Bradley fighting vehicles.

They hoped the siege would prompt Hussein's loyalists to fall back toward Baghdad or Karbala, where they could be slaughtered. Instead, many stayed to fight.

Throughout the day Monday, men, women and children on foot or in small donkey carts fled the city for the countryside. Several told U.S. soldiers manning checkpoints outside town that the fedayeen and Baath Party officials were shooting civilians who tried to leave.

After the battle, trucks and tanks retreated Monday evening to a camp 2 miles away. Hughes sent his civil affairs unit, including a member of the Free Iraqi Force, to broadcast a message to the people of Najaf.

They should know the Americans are here to help, and here to protect them. At the same time, Hughes told the unit, "Let these people know that if they turn these guys in the mosque over, we won't have to come into town and kill everybody."
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We seem to care more about their mosques than they do.




1 posted on 04/02/2003 7:18:53 AM PST by Sabertooth
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2 posted on 04/02/2003 7:19:34 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
And do not touch the mosque. Damaging Najaf's historic mosque -- one of Islam's holiest sites -- would cripple coalition forces' efforts to win over the Iraqi people, and would further erode U.S. relations with other Muslim nations.

Wouldn't suprise me if sadams people had the mosque wired with explosives, try to make it look like we destroyed it.
3 posted on 04/02/2003 7:27:27 AM PST by Valin (Age and deceit beat youth and skill)
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To: Sabertooth
Take the city, surround the mosque and challenge the liberated Shia to handle these Sunnis desecrating their holy site.
4 posted on 04/02/2003 7:30:14 AM PST by Kenton
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To: Sabertooth
The report could not immediately be confirmed.

Well, Fox keeps replaying the clip of Vince Brooks stating this definitively at his briefing this morning. I consider that confirmed.

5 posted on 04/02/2003 7:30:53 AM PST by cyncooper ("Some of the Iraqis... 'told me they would commit suicide if American bombing didn't start.'")
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To: Valin
Damaging Najaf's historic mosque -- one of Islam's holiest sites -- would cripple coalition forces' efforts to win over the Iraqi people, and would further erode U.S. relations with other Muslim nations.

What BS. I'm pretty sure Saddam destroyed some holy sites then rebuilt them, and the Muslims were appeased.

Also, what Muslim countries are "with us" right now? A few governments might be "with us", but no country with a majority of Muslims is with us, I guarantee you that.

6 posted on 04/02/2003 7:33:21 AM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: Valin
You are wrong. What is more important - that mosque or the lives of our men? No brainer. Force protection is 1st priority - if enemy fire from mosque, hospital, school, whatver, they must be taken out. Muslims already hate the U.S. and sparing some mosques at the risks of our troops is stupid and PC (shades of Vietnam). We will NEVER win the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people -they are muslims first, Saddam-haters second. Mark my words.
7 posted on 04/02/2003 7:35:22 AM PST by exmarine
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To: Sabertooth
Time to bring in the snipers.
8 posted on 04/02/2003 7:36:28 AM PST by Politically Correct
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To: cyncooper; Valin
Well, Fox keeps replaying the clip of Vince Brooks stating this definitively at his briefing this morning. I consider that confirmed.

There's more...

Iraqi forces in Najaf take cover in important Shiite shrine

By Nicole Winfield, Associated Press, 4/2/2003 09:55

CAMP AS SALIYAH, Qatar (AP) Iraqi forces have taken up positions inside the Ali Mosque in Najaf, one of the world's most important Shiite shrines, and are firing on coalition troops, U.S. Central Command said Wednesday. Coalition forces have refused to return fire.

U.S.-led forces operating south of Baghdad are trying to root out Iraqi fighters in the holy Muslim Shiite cities of Najaf and Karbala without damaging their gold-domed shrines. The coalition has declared the holy sites as ''no targets'' zones only to be fired upon in self-defense, and troops chose not to return fire Wednesday, said Brig. Gen. Vincent Brooks.

Calling the Iraqi fighters' use of the mosque ''a detestable example of putting historical sites in danger,'' Brooks said coalition troops would try to avoid harming the shrine.

''This regime is firing from within a mosque, something that has no military value, and should be protected by them, but instead it is being protected by us,'' Brooks said during a briefing at Central Command headquarters.

''We don't have to go to that mosque and we certainly want to keep it as protected as possible,'' he said. ''It's something we know to be sacred, and something obviously the people of the town know to be sacred.''

There have been concerns that Saddam Hussein's Sunni Muslim regime would try to provoke U.S.-led forces to attack such holy sites, thereby alienating the country's majority Shiite population, whose support the coalition has been trying to rally. Damage to the shrines could inflame Shiite feelings against the United States worldwide, particularly in Iran.

British Prime Minister Tony Blair said Wednesday there was evidence that Iraq itself may be planning to damage the shrines, and then blame the coalition.

''We are doing everything we can to protect those holy sites and shrines,'' Blair said.

In Baghdad, Iraqi Information Minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf said his government was also concerned about possible damage to historical and cultural sites.

For the world's nearly 120 million Muslim Shiites, Najaf is the third holiest city, behind Mecca and Medina in Saudi Arabia.

Najaf, whose name in Arabic means ''a high land,'' is the burial place of Imam Ali Ibn Abu Talib, the Prophet Muhammad's cousin and son-in-law and the Shiites' most revered saint. It is located about 100 miles south of Baghdad on a high desert plateau overlooking the world's largest cemetery, where Shiites aspire to bury their dead.

Ali's shrine in the city center, with its silver-covered tomb, ceramic ornamented walls and resplendent golden dome and minarets, is considered one of the landmarks of Islamic art.

Najaf is also the seat of the Shiites' spiritual leaders, known as ayatollahs, and the center for scientific, literary and theological studies for the Islamic world.

Karbala, about 40 miles to the north, is the burial place of Imam Hussein, Ali's son, who was killed in a battle with the army of the Muslim Sunni Omayad Kaliph Yazid in 680. Hussein's tragic death is memorialized by Shiites for its historical importance and its symbolic significance as a struggle between justice and injustice.

The city, which is surrounded by date palm groves, overlooks a sandy expanse next to the Euphrates River.

The holy shrines in both cities are believed to have been built by Persian kings who filled them with priceless objects and gifts. They suffered heavy damage when Saddam's government put down a Shiite rebellion after the 1991 Persian Gulf War, but they have since been restored.
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9 posted on 04/02/2003 7:42:32 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Thanks for the heads up!
10 posted on 04/02/2003 7:43:42 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Sabertooth
Destroy the sucker.
It's a no-brainer.

The first priority of war is the objective.
The second priority is protect our countrymen.

Muslim feelings and euroweenie opinion on my list are around 3,298

11 posted on 04/02/2003 7:46:02 AM PST by Publius6961 (p>)
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Smoke rises over Najaf. ABC News Online
A US tank crew watches smoke rise over Najaf.




12 posted on 04/02/2003 7:46:28 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Publius6961
This sounds like spineless politicians talking.
I thought the military professionals were being allowed to run this war.
How many lives is a crummy mosque worth?
13 posted on 04/02/2003 7:47:12 AM PST by Publius6961 (p>)
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To: Kenton
Take the city, surround the mosque and challenge the liberated Shia to handle these Sunnis desecrating their holy site.


I'm trying to find a downside.

Nope, none found.
14 posted on 04/02/2003 8:03:02 AM PST by Valin (Age and deceit beat youth and skill)
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To: Valin
Wouldn't suprise me if sadams people had the mosque wired with explosives, try to make it look like we destroyed it.

You are most likely correct.

15 posted on 04/02/2003 8:03:58 AM PST by b4its2late (You don't stop laughing because you grow old; you grow old because you stop laughing.)
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To: exmarine
We will NEVER win the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people -they are muslims first, Saddam-haters second. Mark my words.

Why do you say that?
16 posted on 04/02/2003 8:04:33 AM PST by Valin (Age and deceit beat youth and skill)
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To: Politically Correct
Time to bring in the snipers.

Agreed. Let them know they either come out now, or none of them will get out alive

17 posted on 04/02/2003 8:07:45 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (Heavily armed, easily bored, and off my medication)
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To: Publius6961
I thought the military professionals were being allowed to run this war.

They are. And they do remeber the mission.

Apparantly you see no problem with needlessly go to war with 3 Billion people? You DO realise that this is just what the radical islamists want.
18 posted on 04/02/2003 8:10:03 AM PST by Valin (Age and deceit beat youth and skill)
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To: Valin
Why do you say that?

How about some examples from the recent past? We saved Kuwait from the brutal Iraqis, and Kuwait allows us to use their bases, however, I have seen polls that suggest that most Kuwaitis are pro-OBL. Saudi Arabia is another example - we saved them from Saddam as well in the 1st gulf war (they were next!), yet most of the hijackers came from this country and they won't let us use their bases because their people are against it! It's time to get a clue about muslims - they hate America. Get used to it.

19 posted on 04/02/2003 8:10:59 AM PST by exmarine
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To: Publius6961
Let's say taking fire from the mosque results in 1 casualty, most likely not a deadly one at that.


Now let's say destroying or damaging the mosque causes the city to rise up. If in this scenario the result is more than one casualty, then by the reasoning of force protection we should protect the mosque.

Think about it, which is likely to cause more casualties?

And then of course destroying the mosque would be simply un-american...

-- lates
20 posted on 04/02/2003 8:34:16 AM PST by jrawk
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