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***Operation Iraqi Freedom - Situation Room - Day 14 - LIVE THREAD***

Posted on 04/01/2003 9:10:41 PM PST by Capitalism2003



TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Free Republic; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iowa; iraq; iraqifreedom; live; war; warlist
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News-bite on CNN banner "Lighter than expected resistance"

Suppose they'll complain about that now?

2,181 posted on 04/02/2003 2:35:20 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Dog
I wonder if Al Jazeera will report that they were booted out.

Prairie

2,182 posted on 04/02/2003 2:35:40 PM PST by prairiebreeze (God Bless and Protect the Allied Troops. And the families here at home---they are soldiers too.)
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To: Dog
I don't think it takes that much to tick the terrorist regime of SH off. They irritated them in some way.
2,183 posted on 04/02/2003 2:35:41 PM PST by abnegation
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To: SandyInSeattle
Thanks and my cats name is Tigger too!!!
2,184 posted on 04/02/2003 2:36:44 PM PST by pitinkie
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To: LauraJean
Northside is where I saw the hand grenades and electric fencing. My friends ranged from Belmont, to Wrigley Field, to Evanston. I only spent some vacations from SIU with my Mom (GRHS) and stepdad -- and that was in So. Indiana. This was 78-79 (coldest damn winter I ever experienced), and 79-80 (55 degrees on Christmas eve).

JK about the lethal weapons, but I was continually amazed at the lengths people would go to to protect their parking places. After helping a buddy dig one out with about 2-3 feet of snow I understood why.

2,185 posted on 04/02/2003 2:36:54 PM PST by johnb838 (Understand the root causes of American anger)
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To: prairiebreeze
i'd like to think the best (no showing surrender) but fear the worse.

praying here too.
2,186 posted on 04/02/2003 2:37:11 PM PST by debg
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To: pitinkie
Rumbling on Bagcam.
2,187 posted on 04/02/2003 2:37:15 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (http://www.angelfire.com/ultra/terroristcorecard/index.html)
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To: prairiebreeze
That is just horrific.
2,188 posted on 04/02/2003 2:37:40 PM PST by retrokitten ("Well, she just can't be tamed...she's a burnin' flame..." -Hank III)
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To: Krodg
Jessica is a hero, genuine...no question. She's pretty, too, so no doubt used to appreciation from the guys...she made it through boot camp...and has a very protective brother.

Let the guys have a brave, beautiful, woman to admire. Hillary-types are a bad influence on girls and boys. Jessica survived her American childhood with faith and gratitude and femininity intact. Must be a redneck. (^;

2,189 posted on 04/02/2003 2:37:42 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl ("The dagger is clearly pointed at the heart of the regime now." Brig. Gen. Vincent Brooks)
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To: Dog
This is not good news....I think they will pull something really bad and blame us...or here comes the chemicals..

If it was chemicals, they's show it and blame it on the coalition. The pull-out is face saving, they don't to be seen getting their asses kicked. (can I say that?)

2,190 posted on 04/02/2003 2:38:22 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: pitinkie; SandyInSeattle
I think my brother and sister in-laws cat had something similar. He's fine now, but they have to give him special food so that it doesn't return. I'm sure your kitty will be fine, too!
2,191 posted on 04/02/2003 2:38:55 PM PST by retrokitten ("Well, she just can't be tamed...she's a burnin' flame..." -Hank III)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Must be a redneck.

LOL

2,192 posted on 04/02/2003 2:39:20 PM PST by B4Ranch (Keep America safe! Thank the troops for our freedom.)
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Analysis: Russia advises Iraq on U.S. plan
By Martin Sieff
UPI Senior News Analyst
From the International Desk
Published 4/1/2003 3:39 PM

WASHINGTON, April 1 (UPI) -- Russian military advisers have told Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and his government that the main Allied drive on Baghdad will not take place until mid-April and will then come around the west of the city, Russian journalists and analysts with strong links to Russian military intelligence now claim.

Strikingly, the Russian analysts, whose work appears on the iraqwar.ru Web site, believe that U.S. and Allied forces are still overwhelmingly likely to win the war and that they are performing in a highly impressive manner. The reports are described as "based on the Russian military intelligence -- the Main Intelligence Directorate or GRU -- reports."

A March 31 report on the site revealed that Iraq was receiving analytical advice from Russian officials. "Russian military analysts are advising the Iraqi military command against excessive optimism," it said.

The Russian analysts stated that "There is no question that the U.S. 'blitzkrieg' failed to take control of Iraq and to destroy its army. It is clear that the Americans got bogged down in Iraq and that the military campaign hit a snag."

But they then went on to caution the Iraqis, "The Iraq command is now in danger of underestimating the enemy. For there is no reason to question the resolve of the Americans and their determination to reach the set goal -- complete occupation of Iraq."

And they continued, "Despite some obvious miscalculations and errors of the coalition's high command, the (Allied) troops that have entered Iraq maintain high combat readiness and are willing to fight. The initiative in the war remains firmly in the hands of the coalition."

Indeed, in a March 30 report the Russian analysts predicted, "The coalition is already planning a new large scale operation that will utilize the new forces currently being deployed in the region."

Russian intelligence believed "this large scale operation will be launched from the general vicinity of Karabela and will develop into a wide maneuver around Baghdad from the west ending in the area of the Tartar lake east of al-Hadid -- or east of the Tartar lake at Samarrah," the Russian analysts' report said. "From this point a part of the force will continue advancing toward Saddam Hussein's home town of Tikrit and from there it will turn towards Baghdad from the north through Samarrah and Baahkuba; meanwhile the rest of the force will strike the rears of the Iraqi forces fighting in the north near Kirkuk and Mosul."

"Such an operation would require up to 60,000 troops, no less than 300 tanks and 200 helicopters," the Russian analysts concluded. "It is believed that such forces can be put together by April 15 and by April 18 they should be ready for to attack."

It remains to be seen, of course if the war will indeed follow this highly detailed prediction. Current reports indicate that U.S. forces are slowly closing in on Baghdad and probing for weaknesses in Iraqi defenses already.

What is certainly the case is that Iraqi resistance has been impressive and prolonged and that contrary to universally held U.S. media assumptions -- and the confident expectations of Defense Department war planners -- the Iraqis have succeeded in holding up and preventing U.S. conquest and occupation of all major cities to this point, almost two weeks into the war. The main -- and bloodiest -- clashes of the war are clearly still ahead.

With this in mind one other, sobering conclusion of the GRU analysts may prove significant. The March 30 report concluded, "Russian military analysts believe that the critical (point) for the U.S. duration of the war would be over 90 days" -- in other words, after mid-June -- "provided that during that time the coalition will sustain over 1,000 killed. Under such circumstances a serious political crisis in the U.S. and the world will be unavoidable."

Copyright © 2001-2003 United Press International
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030401-024727-1436r

2,193 posted on 04/02/2003 2:39:51 PM PST by US_Pride
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To: retrokitten
I don't either. That a ghastly thing to say.
2,194 posted on 04/02/2003 2:40:12 PM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: johnb838
I've got a feeling I dated the guy that did it. But if it was him they were dummy hand grenades. Probably no charge in the electrically fence.
2,195 posted on 04/02/2003 2:40:14 PM PST by LauraJean (Fukai please pass the squid sauce)
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To: B4Ranch
Give it a rest. You know people who knock others because they are attractive are unfairly discriminating against the good looking. I've seen attractive women who had it on the ball refused employment because their looks threatened the other women. You try to stick up for her and nobody listens and tells you you're only interested because of her breasts. It sucks. Oh yeah and cute kids get molested a lot more than homely ones.

You know the military doesn't operate that way. They are equal opportunity rescuers. Next you'll be calling them racist because they saved the cute white girl but they haven't saved any black girls.
2,196 posted on 04/02/2003 2:41:12 PM PST by johnb838 (Understand the root causes of American anger)
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To: retrokitten
Remember there is a Al Jazeera reporter embed. I think the liklier reason is that they do not want the rest of the Arab world to see that the regime is going down the drain on a network that the Arab world trusts.
2,197 posted on 04/02/2003 2:41:28 PM PST by babaloo
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To: US_Pride
Russian military advisers have told Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and his government that the main Allied drive on Baghdad will not take place until mid-April and will then come around the west of the city

APRIL FOOL!

2,198 posted on 04/02/2003 2:41:34 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: US_Pride
"Such an operation would require up to 60,000 troops, no less than 300 tanks and 200 helicopters," the Russian analysts concluded.

Interesting. This must be the Russians figuring on their own capabilities.

2,199 posted on 04/02/2003 2:42:58 PM PST by B4Ranch (Keep America safe! Thank the troops for our freedom.)
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To: retrokitten
thanks I hope so!! And I want the spraying to stop!!!
2,200 posted on 04/02/2003 2:43:04 PM PST by pitinkie
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