Ancient Greek Bronze Fished From Sea Dazzes Italy

Yahoo News/Reuters ^ | 01-04-03 | Estell Shirbon

[BunnySlippers]

What a lovely post! Just a little L.A. background: When the villa was recreated in Malibu it was reviled by quite a few people. They were used to seeing antiquities as "old" and battered. But the Getty Villa was not old ... it was built to replicate a "new" villa, as it would have been when it was just built. The columns are new, not damaged; the gardens are green; the murals are fresh and vivid, not faded. It is a gem. I'm sorry that the Getty appears to be putting it out to pasture or, at the very least, restricting it to a favored few. If I was a visitor to L.A. and not a full time dweller, I would ask for a tour.

[ConservativeConvert]

I've never been but would love to go...

[u-89]

Judging by the clearly human foot, I don't see why the article persists in describing the figure as a satyr.

I am not knowledgeable enough to know all the subtle distinctions here but from the common understanding satyrs are as you describe however I see in some of my books on Roman art that the word is used to describe playful, dancing and lecherous figures with all human characteristics except for pointed ears. They also use the term Faun for the same creatures though again Fauns are commonly thought of as the Roman version of the Greek satyr, to the layman anyway. Fauns attended Faunus, the Roman god who was similar to the Greek Pan but was not usually depicted as half goat as was Pan. There seems to be a blur of Greek and Roman terminology with this stuff and multiple versions of the same creatures but I do not have an explaination for any of it.

[u-89]

I love that description of your Rome apartment. I wouldn't mind spending a few years there myself.

[Romulus]

My Oxford Classical Dictionary suggests that satyrs all have hooves, sometimes cloven, while this figure appears to be fully human (have I overlooked something?). Regardless, it's a lovely thing, and would make a spectacular addition to any MVSEVM's collection.

[u-89]

It's hard to see from the picture but it looks like the ears are pointed. Also the leaping type of dancing pose is typical of the subject. My dictionaries on Roman and Greek religion say as you suggest that satyrs are half goat while in my art books there are sculptures, wall paintings and mosaics that depict things like the above sculpture labeled as satyrs or fauns. Apparently the dictionaries do not account for every type of depiction. There appears to be variations. Somehow I will have to get to the bottom of this.

[ffusco]

"Your welcome. I lived in Rome for several years and had an apartment with two huge ancient Roman marble columns built into the living room walls! They were the remains of a pagan temple that had stood on the site 2000 years ago"

Incredible, the echos ......

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Ancient Greek Bronze Fished From Sea Dazzes Italy

Oh, man, the Dazz Band was GREAT! Remember "Let It Whip"?

[t_skoz]

I was thinking more about Jeremy & The Satyrs

sorry, a little music nerd obscure humor...

[curmudgeonII]

I wonder why it took five years to exhibit it?

[Rebelbase]

When I click on the source link it takes me to Microsoft's website. What's up with that?

[eleni121]

I have a blank box with little red asterisk at the top corner.
Anyone know how to fix this problem?

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