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CNN TV: Allies May Have Found Chemical Weapons at Terrorist Camp
CNN (on air) ^ | 04/01/2003 | TonyInOhio

Posted on 04/01/2003 6:11:17 AM PST by TonyInOhio

CNN TV has reported this morning that Allied forces "may have found chemical weapons at Ansar al Islam camp in Northern Iraq".

The Agonist weblog comments on hearing the same:

Allied forces may have found chemical weapons at a camp of the radical Islamist group, Ansar al Islam, in northern Iraq, reported CNN on April 1.

National Review Online has a similar tease:

ANSLAR AL ISLAM & WMD [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
CNN On Air is reporting suspected chemcial/bioweapon evidence found at the camp seized over the weekend.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaedaandiraq; ansaralislam; chemicalweapons; illegalweapons; iraq; war
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To: TonyInOhio
We MAY have found chemical weapons in a dozen different places. Let's wait 24 hours or so before we pay any attention to this new report.
101 posted on 04/01/2003 2:43:30 PM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: elfman2
That is a well thought out response, and you may well be right. Thanks for your reply.

I do recall reading that Saddam in the past had nerve gassed the town of Halabja, and sent in scientists to observe the results, but that was well before the Gulf war. The Ansar al-Islam terrorist camp is near Halabja.

FRegards.
102 posted on 04/01/2003 3:40:37 PM PST by FBD (May God bless our troops, and all coalition forces!)
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To: smith288
They (leftists) need to see Saddam pouring VX into missile warheads and placing Anthrax into envelopes to be convinced.

And a "Love, Osama" letter in Saddam's pocket to believe Iraqi intelligence links to 9/11!

103 posted on 04/01/2003 4:11:15 PM PST by WarEagle
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To: elfman2
Once the police that protects the fascists from the suppressed population looses critical mass, they will flee, hide, be destroyed or at least be suppressed. Iraq will bloom like the dessert after a spring rain.

Yeah, right.

104 posted on 04/01/2003 4:14:07 PM PST by The Other Harry
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To: wirestripper
Do I need to go through the historical proof by re-stating the long chain of events, culminating with 9/11/2001 in order to open your eyes?

Not really.

You just need to keep your own eyes open for what happens during the next five years or so.

105 posted on 04/01/2003 4:17:42 PM PST by The Other Harry
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To: VRWC_minion
No one can be this naive.

We'll find out about that.

106 posted on 04/01/2003 4:19:39 PM PST by The Other Harry
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To: k2blader
Elaborate in what manner? That 'coalition' roster is fictitious and I regard it accordingly.
107 posted on 04/01/2003 4:32:36 PM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: AntiGuv
Well, thanks at least for admitting it.
108 posted on 04/01/2003 4:56:10 PM PST by k2blader
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To: The Other Harry
I have exchanged words with four or five people on the forum who think like you.

This pessimism is impossible for me to argue against, since it is a mind set and not a issue.

Too bad.

There are soldiers dying over there to protect your right to be whatever it is that you want to be. Just keep that in mind.

109 posted on 04/01/2003 5:36:49 PM PST by Cold Heat (Negotiate!! .............(((Blam!.)))........... "Now who else wants to negotiate?")
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To: wirestripper
Just keep that in mind.

Just for the record (and not to protract this debate or anything), I do think about these things. I am every bit as much of a conservative as you are. Maybe more so.

I just don't think this war is a good idea. I am sure we will win, but I think we may well lose in the end. I don't think it was necessary.

I tied some yellow ribbons around the trees in front of my house this evening. A lot of them.

Their significance to me is that I hope our soldiers who are in Iraq will return home safely. That is all.

110 posted on 04/01/2003 7:12:23 PM PST by The Other Harry
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To: The Other Harry
"But they are tough sonsabitches who do not want us in there."

Yeah, that is why the are dressing like civilians and hiding behind women and children.

111 posted on 04/01/2003 7:18:27 PM PST by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: elfman2
"If you want to call enforced no fly zones "rules", be my guest."

No fly zones meant that Saddam could not fly his troops in to the north or the south. It did not prevent him from sending them by way of land. He still controlled even the Kurdish territory to a degree until about a week ago. He would still have troops there if he wasn't pulling them down south because he is getting his butt kicked in the Shiite area of Iraq (also a no fly zone, but plenty of Saddam's troops there).


112 posted on 04/01/2003 7:28:02 PM PST by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: The Other Harry
I just don't think this war is a good idea. I am sure we will win, but I think we may well lose in the end. I don't think it was necessary.

This is where we differ, and why we should LEARN from history and realize that appeasement and turning the other cheek has always led to disaster.

Saddam has been sticking it to us for 12-13 years. Other administrations used half measures and nothing changed.

911 changed the policy manual forever.

113 posted on 04/01/2003 7:48:27 PM PST by Cold Heat (Negotiate!! .............(((Blam!.)))........... "Now who else wants to negotiate?")
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To: The Other Harry; TonyInOhio
Mr PYNE (2.07 p.m.) —My question is addressed to the Minister for Foreign Affairs. Would the minister inform the House about the group Ansar al-Islam, which is apparently responsible for the suicide car bombing that killed the Australian journalist Paul Moran?

Mr DOWNER —I thank the honourable member for Sturt for his question and appreciate the concern he has about these Islamic terrorist organisations. The member for Sturt has been particularly assiduous in focusing on these sorts of groups. All of us, I think, would express our deep regret at the death of Paul Moran and extend our condolences to his family. I understand from intelligence and other sources that the organisation responsible for the car bombing which killed Paul Moran was Ansar al-Islam, as the honourable member suggests in his question, and that is an extremist Islamic organisation. Importantly, it is allied with and actively supported by al-Qaeda. This group has also had contact with Iraqi intelligence officers in recent times. There is evidence to suggest that Iraqi intelligence services have provided support to Ansar al-Islam to destabilise the Kurdish so-called safe haven which was established after the Gulf War in 1991. There was a report in February of this year that claimed that Iraqi intelligence agents are among Ansar al-Islam's leadership, though we cannot confirm that. There are also reports that Ansar al-Islam has been experimenting with poison gas and toxins and that these may have been provided by the Iraqi regime. Ansar al-Islam is based in the Kurdish part of northern Iraq, which is the region where Mr Moran was killed.

nsar al-Islam shares al-Qaeda's extremist ideology—that is, jihad against the West and the establishment of strict Islamic regimes throughout the region. It runs a terrorist training camp in northern Iraq in conjunction with elements of al-Qaeda, and it stands against the secular and democratic goals of the other group that represents the majority of Kurdish people in northern Iraq. Ansar al-Islam grew out of an organisation called Jund al-Islam, which fought against the Kurds in the safe haven some time ago. Jund al-Islam is accused of mutilating and decapitating Kurdish fighters—clearly crimes against humanity and, importantly, crimes against Islam. The political leader of Ansar al-Islam is Mullah Krekar, who received political refugee status in Norway in 1991. I believe he is currently in detention in Norway due to fears on the part of the Norwegian government that as a political, religious and military leader he could carry out terrorist activities in that country. In July 2001, Krekar described Osama bin Laden as `the crown on the head of the Muslim nation'.

Ansar al-Islam has been listed by the United Nations as a terrorist organisation related to al-Qaeda and is subject to asset freezing and other sanctions in Australia and, of course, elsewhere. This is a highly dangerous organisation with interests in and close proximity to weapons of mass destruction. As events in Iraq develop further, more information about Ansar al-Islam should come to light. It will, I am sure, continue to reveal the links that have already been established between Ansar al-Islam and Iraqi intelligence. source

114 posted on 04/01/2003 8:05:36 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: Media Insurgent; Dog Gone; Walkingfeather; dfwgator; AmericanInTokyo; sam_paine; peeve23; ...
See post #114

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Who says Saddam doesn't like or need Ansar al Islam? They are perfect tools to keep Saddam's real enemies (mainstream kurds) at bay.

115 posted on 04/01/2003 8:15:19 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: MadIvan; JohnHuang2
see post #114
116 posted on 04/01/2003 8:17:49 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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