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Goodbye to the classic Apple iMac
bbcnews.com ^ | march-31-2003 | By Mark Ward BBC News online technology correspondent

Posted on 03/31/2003 8:06:47 PM PST by green team 1999

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To: green team 1999
I wouldn't have bought a Mac to begin with, but now I know I will never own a Mac now "Big Gay Al" is in charge.
21 posted on 03/31/2003 9:16:56 PM PST by Porterville (Screw the grammar, full posting ahead.)
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To: green team 1999

22 posted on 03/31/2003 9:17:05 PM PST by Nick Danger (More rallys planned! www.freerepublic.net)
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To: Porterville

23 posted on 03/31/2003 9:18:05 PM PST by Porterville (Screw the grammar, full posting ahead.)
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To: unix
BLASPHEMY! UNIX SERVER and GRAPHIC INTERFACE should NEVER be in the same sentance. Now, please go flog yourself 100 times while repeating I will never stray from the CLI.

Although I'm a heavy Windows user, what I like about the new generation of Apples is the ability to run Unix and a high-quality GUI at the same time. On PC's, you can have either, but never both at once. And since Apple software is built exclusively for Apple hardware, I don't have to spend weeks fussing with device drivers to get Unix working, the way I used to do with each new distribution of Linux on PC's. I'm freed up to actually do interesting things with the computer.

24 posted on 03/31/2003 9:47:36 PM PST by BlazingArizona
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To: BlazingArizona
Awe don't sweat it man...I'm rousing ya. I'm a *nix user. Love my E. I really hope Apple ports to x86. I'd love to give their option a once around the block. I had one of the 'ol 7100/80's. I would love to have that machine back as a file server. Alas, I leant it to a family member that stored it in a shack outside...*sigh*...At any rate, it is nice at times to have "something" to offer an "easy" way to get around.

I kinda like webmin for backend (read protected LAN) configuring. It's easier to steer the wife through that when I'm outta town..
;-)

25 posted on 03/31/2003 10:08:47 PM PST by Michael Barnes
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To: BlazingArizona
BTW, E is approaching 0.17 soon...aaaaawww...gonna be sweet.
26 posted on 03/31/2003 10:09:27 PM PST by Michael Barnes
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To: TheBattman
powerbook g4 17" as of this week!
27 posted on 03/31/2003 10:12:01 PM PST by MatthewViti
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To: *Macuser_list
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/bump-list
28 posted on 03/31/2003 10:19:21 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: mercy
Funny ... I always thought of the i-mac as a joke. A joke almost as funny as Apple itself. Only a fool cares what a good tool looks like. I have a flat screen and a box under the desk where I can't see it. I have wireless everything. Now that's cool. Stupid liberals. (oh yeah ... my monitor is also a tv with picture in picture. Too cool.)

Wow, just like my Mac, item for item. Funny, that. Get over it.

29 posted on 03/31/2003 10:20:58 PM PST by Timesink (Six hundred and four, Toxteth O'Grady, USA.)
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To: unix
Apple will save itself by moving it's OS to x86.

That's a plan of last resort, I doubt they want to tie themselves to Intel. All indications are that this year Apple will switch to IBM's PowerPC 970 (based on POWER4, 64-bit, 6.4GB/sec bandwidth, *much* faster than the G4) which will solve the performance problems they've had recently and may allow them to challenge Itanium and Opteron at the high end. Should be fun.

30 posted on 03/31/2003 10:24:24 PM PST by ThinkDifferent
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all you windows users don't understand that Macs will always have superior chips.

Because anyone not running a firewire port to their printer to print their grocery list is a fool.

windows users delude themselves into thinking the graphics on their computers are sufficient for sending "LOL!! OMG!!1!11!!! limp bizkit is so k3wl!!!" on their instant messaging program.

its not. Without the superior graphics found in a macintosh, even sending email isn't even worth it.

31 posted on 03/31/2003 10:34:29 PM PST by KneelBeforeZod (Deus Lo Volt!)
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To: Constructionist
I have used both platforms (PC and MAC) steadily for 5 years. My overall experience from the user standpoint is that MAC's freeze or "bomb" far more often than do PC's.

I am a cross platform consultant on both Macs and PCs. About 10% of my clients run Macs, the others run various incarnations of Windows from 95 to XP. The businesses with PCs pay me far more than the businesses running Macs for fixing their computers... because the Macs, as a rule, don't break down, don't get infected with viruses, and generally don't suffer from the "loose nut on the keyboard" syndrone.

I was just at one of my Mac client's office... for the first time in three months... and not because of a problem: I was there to install some new software. The previous visit was to switch his bookkeeping software from a Windows version of Quickbooks Pro (which ran in a VirtualPC window on a Mac) to a Mac OSX version of Quickbooks Pro. He runs 5 LCD screen iMacs networked to a Mac Cube as a server to operate his 16 employee dental practice. His Macs have been operating constantly since I installed the iMacs (replacing is older PowerMacs which replaced a Windows based system six years previous) without a crash. That's SIX computers, 24 seven, ethernetted, constant DSL connection, with no crashes.

PC's are far more "web friendly" than MACs, too.

Sure, right. To just how many friendly web based viruses, worms and trojans are Macs susceptible?

The MAC "OS9 vs. OSX" issues are beyond one's patience. In a word, it SUCKS.

It does? Strange. I have applications for both on this computer... as well as Windows applications... and all seem to operate as they were designed. If I want to start my OS9 version of Adobe Photoshop, I merely click on its icon... and it runs... just like the OSX applications... and with the the new version of VirtualPC, just like Windows applications. If either OS9.2 or Windows XP is not already running in the background (invisibly) they boot in their own memory protected window. No patience required.

If you're interested in a car that looks good, but always breaks down and needs one hell of a lot of software diagnostics in order to fix it, get a MAC.

On an OS9 system, reinstalling the entire system MIGHT take 15 minutes... without overwriting the old one. OSX does take a little longer... but then I have never had to do so. My OSX system has been running for about 11 months now (constantly on) without a system crash.

Several times I have had to attempt to restore PCs where the manufacturer failed to include all the driver disks for the no-name hardware they installed. Often generic drivers would not work... and locating the correct driver was nigh unto impossible. On one particular machine, we finally returned it to the manufacturer... and THEY failed to find all the drivers.

Even on name brands it is not really easy. Just last week I had to attempt to restore the system to an HP Pavilion (WindowsME) WITH the restore disk that came with the computer... it failed. After severak attempts, I tried a format and install... it also failed.

After talking with HP tech support in INDIA, I learned that this model could only be restored by REMOVING EVERY THING INSTALLED POST FACTORY, including software and hardware... and restoring the machine to factory specs. Then everything would have to be REINSTALLED, Windows update disks and patches all REINSTALLED... and then reinstall all the software. One minor problem... the owner had upgraded his graphics card and sold the factory original... so even after following the HP instructions, the restore disks failed and would not finish the restore. I finally wiped the harddrive, installed a new Windows98 disk and reinstalled all his software. Thank God the client had been religiously backing up his data.

Have you ever tried to remove all vestiges of an application installed on a PC? If I had a dollar for every file left behind by uninstalling programs from a PC, I would be very rich. On a Mac, it can be as simple as deleting ONE directory.

Just tonite a Mac client brought me his old PowerMac 6360 (Mac OS8.5.1) that failed to boot. Total diagnosis and time to install AND upgrade his operating system to System 8.6? 25 minutes. Defragging his 6 gig HD took another 15 minutes.

My average trouble call to a PC user results in over $200 in billing... to a Mac user, about $100. I expect a call from the PC users at least once a month... and the Mac users about every six months...

33 posted on 03/31/2003 11:59:21 PM PST by Swordmaker (Tagline Extermination Services, franchises available, small investment, big profit)
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To: Constructionist
Oh, the PCs are much less susceptible to problems if the business owner STRICTLY limits the access to the internet.

One client, who's computer had slowed to a dead stop, called me a couple of weeks ago. I found NINE different spy-ware applications running, stealing CPU usage and eating bandwidth on his dialup connection. He had no idea where they came from.

34 posted on 04/01/2003 12:04:20 AM PST by Swordmaker (Tagline Extermination Services, franchises available, small investment, big profit)
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To: longtermmemmory
What programs do you run?
35 posted on 04/01/2003 2:13:17 AM PST by D-fendr
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To: Swordmaker
I use 3 PCs and 2 Macs in my house. I used to be a Mac-only guy but I had to get a PC when I changed jobs. From now on I will continue to buy PC not because I think it is the better platform but because it is more of the standard. I don't like it and in a way I resent it.

I feel so ... French.

36 posted on 04/01/2003 7:29:28 AM PST by freedomlover
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To: Swordmaker
To quote Bilbo Baggins,

"Hear hear!"

37 posted on 04/01/2003 7:51:29 AM PST by JohnnyZ (President of the Ruth Samuelson Fan Club)
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To: green team 1999
Given Gore's lengthy VP association with Clintoon, the next generation from Apple will be the BigMac.

38 posted on 04/01/2003 8:47:49 AM PST by azhenfud
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To: passionfruit
This story really has me wondering how my mother is going to respond. She's a card-carrying democrat, though she's become more conservative since moving to Oregon. Still she'll never watch FNC for more than a minute & hates Rush and all things talk radio. And she's a die-hard Mac-ite. Buys the newest models as soon as they're out. Both desktop & laptops, mind you.

So, Al Gore is responsible for iMac's no longer being available on the market; am I reading this correctly?

Who will she side with? Al or Apple? My mind is reeling.

39 posted on 04/01/2003 10:13:16 AM PST by cgk (the Mrs half)
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