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Columbia's De Genova responds -and it's worse than we thought!
Columbia Spectator ^ | Nicholas De Genova

Posted on 03/31/2003 12:06:24 PM PST by Ignatz

To the Editor:
Spectator, now for the second time in less than a year, has succeeded to quote me in a remarkably decontextualized and inflammatory manner. In Margaret Hunt Gram's report on the faculty teach-in against the war in Iraq (March 27, 2003), I am quoted as wishing for a million Mogadishus but with no indication whatsoever of the perspective that framed that remark. It is hardly surprising, therefore, that your Staff Editorial in the same issue, denouncing the teach-in for "dogmatism," situates me in particular as the premier example of an academic "launching tirades against anything and everything American."

In my brief presentation, I outlined a long history of U.S. invasions, wars of conquest, military occupations, and colonization in order to establish that imperialism and white supremacy have been constitutive of U.S. nation-state formation and U.S. nationalism. In that context, I stressed the necessity of repudiating all forms of U.S. patriotism. I also emphasized that the disproportionate majority of U.S. troops come from racially subordinated and working-class backgrounds and are in the military largely as a consequence of a treacherous lack of prospects for a decent life. Nonetheless, I emphasized that U.S. troops are indeed confronted with a choice--to perpetrate this war against the Iraqi people or to refuse to fight and contribute toward the defeat of the U.S. war machine.

I also affirmed that Iraqi liberation can only be effected by the Iraqi people themselves, both by resisting and defeating the U.S. invasion as well as overthrowing a regime whose brutality was long sustained by none other than the U.S. Such an anti-colonial struggle for self-determination might involve a million Mogadishus now but would ultimately have to become something more like another Vietnam. Vietnam was a stunning defeat for U.S. imperialism; as such, it was also a victory for the cause of human self-determination.

Is this a tirade against "anything and everything American"? Far from it. First, I hasten to remind you that "American" refers to all of the Americas, not merely to the United States, as U.S. imperial chauvinism would have it. More importantly, my rejection of U.S. nationalism is an appeal to liberate our own political imaginations such that we might usher in a radically different world in which we will not remain the prisoners of U.S. global domination.

Nicholas De Genova
March 21, 2003
The author is an assistant professor of anthropology and latina/o studies.


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To: Jeff Head
Woo-hoo! Excellent, Jeff!

You know, I typically am rather calm, reserved, and thoughtful in my remarks and rebuttals to Liberals, but this guy just set me off.
Our young people are dying in an effort to remove a ruthless dictator whose atrocities rival Hitler in scope and exceed him in scale, and this Marxist idiot has the nerve to sit there and collect a paycheck partially funded by the patriotic taxpayers of this country while he pukes anti-American drivel into the minds of college students!

I don't just want him out of acadamia, I want him out of the country.

81 posted on 03/31/2003 12:40:20 PM PST by Ignatz (Scribe of the Unwritten Law)
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To: MeeknMing
I have seen and downloaded that disgusting graphic as a part of my own efforts to show these enemies for what they really are.
82 posted on 03/31/2003 12:40:26 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Ignatz
I am deeply saddened by his response.
83 posted on 03/31/2003 12:40:59 PM PST by muleskinner
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To: Ignatz
a regime whose brutality was long sustained by none other than the U.S.

I am sooooooooo tired of this myth. The Iraqis were a Soviet client state for decades. Who made most of the armament we're seeing them use?

84 posted on 03/31/2003 12:42:14 PM PST by CaptRon
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To: Ignatz
This guy is a freaking idiot. How in the world was U.S. intervention in something the stinking Freach couldn't handle an imperialist conquest. BTW, does anyone know of hand how many south Vietnamese were butchered when we left Saigon?
Why was the U.S. in Mogadishusu? To safeguard the food from these bastard warlords. Again a U.N. failure. What the hell else would we be doing in that part of the world?
Thirdly, where was this and all the rest of these anti-war POS people when millions were getting killed via machettes (sp)? Once again, a U.N. failure.
I could go on forever with the idiocy of these useful idiots, but I need to go enjoy being a real American. That would be going to the indoor target range.
85 posted on 03/31/2003 12:42:23 PM PST by dc27
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To: kcvl
As far as his statement that American military has invaded countries in the interest of colonization please read this statement made by Colin Powell....it is excellent
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/879281/posts

We have to stay on this. This individual should not be allowed to teach anywhere in this country and if it were up to me I would revoke his citizenship and deport him to one of his beloved third world countries.

86 posted on 03/31/2003 12:42:38 PM PST by Sparky760
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To: wideawake
Let's see pussy-boy De Genova make that speech in front of the servicemen he wants dead.
87 posted on 03/31/2003 12:43:36 PM PST by Noumenon (You can evade reality, but you cannot evade the consequences of evading reality - Ayn Rand)
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To: Mike K
Thank you. Well said.
88 posted on 03/31/2003 12:43:51 PM PST by wideawake (Support our troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: 3AngelaD
Assistant professors do not have tenure. Columbia can remove this twerp when his contract is up. And there are probably clauses within it which allow immediate dismissal for flaming jerkery.
89 posted on 03/31/2003 12:45:25 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit ( Its time to trap some RATS)
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To: Ignatz
-- "American" refers to all of the Americas, not merely to the United States... --

This joker complains about being taken out of context then proceeds to make a statement like that. The term "American" is generally used in the context of nationality and stricly refers to someone from the United States of America. In this same sense someone from Mexico would be Mexican, Brazil would be Brazilian, etc... This joker confuses the nationality context with the continental context (as in North American or South American) and then critisizes everyone else for using the term correctly. It is a cheap bait-and-switch technique and only goes to show how much of a decrepit fool he is.
90 posted on 03/31/2003 12:45:28 PM PST by lews
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To: dennisw

91 posted on 03/31/2003 12:45:35 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Subvert the dominant cliche!)
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To: FreeTheHostages
Well, technically the traitorous professor is right.

Martin Waldseemüller was the man who named AMERICA.

He named it after the Florence Italy native, Amerigo Vespucci who had written about his travels to the new world. Martin printed a wood block map with his own invention of a name "AMERICA" across what is now called South America. (See Amerigo Vespucci, about.com).

However it is common, historically-established since people had names, and all-in-all quite proper to call the biggest and most influential member of a set of things by the name of that set. In this case, "America" is a perfectfectly fine alternate way of naming the "United States of America".

92 posted on 03/31/2003 12:46:01 PM PST by bvw
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To: Jeff Head
Outstanding!
93 posted on 03/31/2003 12:46:13 PM PST by Ditto (You are free to form your own opinions, but not your own facts.)
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To: Ignatz
...liberate our own political imaginations such that we might usher in a radically different world

Marxist alert

94 posted on 03/31/2003 12:47:16 PM PST by SarahW
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To: Ignatz
Amen.

Check out this thread for my initial email to them.

My Message to Columbia Professor Nicholas De Genova regarding his death wish for our forces

This man is the crux of the lurking, evil monster behind the anti-war movement. They want the destruction and overthrow of our Republic and Constitution.

95 posted on 03/31/2003 12:47:43 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Ignatz
Another thing:

1,000 Somalis died in Mogadishu, to 19 Americans. Is deGenova wishing for the death of a billion third world people?

Peace be with you,
-jimbo

96 posted on 03/31/2003 12:48:11 PM PST by jimbokun
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To: Ignatz
It boggles the mind! This midget apparently thinks or wants us to think that his scholarly presentation went over the heads all the rubes in the flyoever country.
97 posted on 03/31/2003 12:50:02 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Subvert the dominant cliche!)
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To: American Soldier
Face it--he is just another stupid white boy
98 posted on 03/31/2003 12:50:38 PM PST by Taffini (I like Tony Soprano even though he is a fat-boy)
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To: Jeff Head
Run it through the spell checker first.
99 posted on 03/31/2003 12:50:53 PM PST by alnitak
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To: Revolting cat!
All I can think when I see that pic is a musical
"totally Gay!" (the big finish to the SOUTHPARK "getting gay with kids" rainforest episode)
100 posted on 03/31/2003 12:51:51 PM PST by SarahW
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