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India Can Apply the New US War Doctrine on Pakistan
HindustanTimes/SATribune ^ | Vir Sanghvi

Posted on 03/31/2003 10:45:58 AM PST by swarthyguy

NEW DELHI: NOW THAT the war in Iraq is finally underway, let’s pause to consider what America has to say. This is a just war, according to Washington, because it seeks to remove an unelected dictator who possesses weapons of mass destruction, has previously attacked a neighboring country, and has oppressed vast sections of his own population.

India, in common with most of the world, has rejected this position. We argue that America has acted too hastily, that it should have given more time to the weapons inspectors and that it should not act unilaterally (with only England and Australia as significant allies) without UN sanction.

I believe we are making a mistake. We should drop our objections. Instead we should embrace the American position and use it as the basis of our own national security policy. After all, as Donald Rumsfeld keeps suggesting, America is now the greatest power in the world and makes all the rules.

So, let’s stop protesting. Let’s just learn these new rules and apply them to our own national security — chiefly to our relations with Pakistan.

Here are the new principles —as enunciated by America — and here’s how we can follow them to safeguard ourselves from the evildoers in our neighborhood.

- British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw was on TV last week telling the world that while one must always talk and negotiate to avoid a conflict, there comes a time when we must accept that talking has failed. Then, it is a question of having the courage to go forward and use force to do whatever is right.

I think that this is an admirable principle but it is one that Straw and his Prime Minister, Tony Blair, leave at home when they visit New Delhi. I would suggest that we remind them of it when they next come calling and tell them how impressed we are with their grasp of international morality.

We too have tried to talking to Pakistan. Our Prime Minister went to Lahore and signed a document which the Pakistanis now say they no longer recognize. We invited their dictator to Agra and tried to negotiate with him.

But somehow nothing has worked. Despite our best efforts, talking has failed. Surely, the time has now come to go forward and use force to do whatever is right?

- “We respect the United Nations,” George W Bush has said on more than one occasion. But, as he also made clear a fortnight ago, respecting the UN does not mean that a country must not do whatever it needs to in the pursuit of its own security.

Absolutely, We couldn’t agree more. We respect the UN too. In fact, we were the ones who took the Kashmir issue to the Security Council. But it’s been over 50 years now and we are no closer to securing the return of that part of Kashmir that has been illegally occupied by Pakistan.

Worse still, Pakistan uses this occupied territory to smuggle terrorists across our borders to kill and maim innocent civilians. During last year’s assembly election campaign in Kashmir hundreds of people were murdered by such terrorists.

So, as much as we respect the United Nations, we must now do what we need to protect our own security interests. Bush’s answer has been to launch an invasion. That sounds like just the sort of thing we need to do as well.

- The problem with the world, Tony Blair tells us, is rogue regimes which have got their hands on weapons of mass destruction. Often these weapons have been assembled from components smuggled out of the West and then illicitly assembled. The world can never live in peace as long as such regimes possess these weapons. The best solution is to ensure that these regimes destroy their weapons. Failing that, we need to change these regimes.

Spot on! Take the case of Pakistan which clandestinely imported the components for a nuclear bomb from many Western countries (and had other components sent to it by undemocratic and repressive China), and whose scientists were caught and arrested all over the world, trying to break embargoes by collecting such components.

Sadly, the international community did not act till it was too late. Now Pakistan has weapons of mass destruction — nuclear devices — whose destructive power vastly exceeds anything that Iraq possesses.

Nor has changing the regime made any difference. No matter which democratic government is elected, the army invariably ends up toppling it and taking control. And no matter which General has his finger on the nuclear button, the Pakistani army always retains the power to vaporize lakhs of people in a matter of minutes.

Surely Tony Blair is right! We must invade and ensure that these weapons of mass destruction are destroyed.

(Don’t worry too much about our own weapons of mass destruction. Nobody minds that Britain, which has no enemies at all, possesses over 250 nuclear bombs.)

- The thing about Saddam Hussein, we are told, is that he is unelected. He is a dictator. Oh yes, he stages fraudulent elections at which he’s the only candidate but that’s hardly an example of democracy in action.

The world needs to remove such unelected dictators and replace them with genuinely democratic regimes that respect human rights and liberal freedoms.

Too right! Take the case of Pervez Musharraf, a general who seized power in Pakistan by overthrowing the legally elected government and exiling the Prime Minister (after first arresting him). Musharraf has never been elected. Oh yes, he had a fraudulent referendum in which he was the only candidate but nobody believes that this was fair.

As true democrats, we need to march into his capital, effect a regime change and give the peace-loving people of Pakistan a chance to enjoy the liberal freedom that those of us who live in democracies have always taken for granted.

- “I cannot make that claim,” George Bush told Britain’s Sky News when asked if Saddam was in league with Al Qaeda. But, as his aides have explained, there is evidence of links between elements in the Iraqi regime and Osama bin Laden. Besides, as the Americans point out, the greatest threat to world peace is if rogue states with weapons of mass destruction link up with terrorists. So, just as the world hunts down the terrorists, it must simultaneously effect regime-changes in the rogue states.

What a convincing argument! None of us can claim that Pervez Musharraf is in league with bin Laden. But we do know that Al Qaeda was protected by the Taliban, which was created by Pakistan’s ISI. We know also that elements in the ISI and the Pakistani military have links with Al Qaeda. And we know that much of Al Qaeda’s leadership is hiding in safe houses in such cities as Rawalpindi. Top Al Qaeda leaders keep being arrested from large homes in Pakistani suburbs and there is reason to believe that bin Laden himself is in Pakistan.

Suppose now, that these dangerous Al Qaeda terrorists were to link up with those who controlled Pakistan’s weapons of mass destruction. What a disaster that would be for world peace!

The logic is infallible: We must not be content with merely hunting down bin Laden. We must simultaneously invade Pakistan to effect a regime change.

- We know, say the Americans, that Saddam is a menace to his neighborhood because, over a decade ago, he invaded and tried to annex part of a neighboring country (Kuwait) on the dubious and specious grounds that Iraq had a claim to its territory. How can it be good for world peace to let such an invader remain in power?

Spot on! Likewise, we know that General Musharraf is a menace to his neighborhood because five years ago, he planned and executed an invasion of Kargil which belonged to his neighbor on the dubious and specious grounds that Pakistan had a claim to that territory. How can it be good for world peace to let such an invader remain in power?

- And finally, if we don’t have the stomach to do all this, let’s do what Donald Rumsfeld called ‘decapitating” the regime. That is, let’s launch lots of missiles and air strikes to try and kill the leader of the evildoers. What better way is there to bring peace to the world than a spot of high-tech murder!

Sounds good, doesn’t it?

There’s only one problem: if we did exactly what America is doing for exactly the same reasons and using exactly the same arguments, America would be the first country to oppose us.

That’s the new world order: the world should do what America orders.

The writer is a Regular Columnist for The Hindustan Times. This Article appeared on March 22, 2003


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We should drop our objections. Instead we should embrace the American position and use it as the basis of our own national security policy.
1 posted on 03/31/2003 10:45:58 AM PST by swarthyguy
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There’s only one problem: if we did exactly what America is doing for exactly the same reasons and using exactly the same arguments, America would be the first country to oppose us.

The author is only partially correct. To maintain a friendly Pakistan during the War on Terror, we'd condemn India. Once that war was won, we'd maintain a studious silence if India made a move.

2 posted on 03/31/2003 10:50:18 AM PST by Publius
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4 posted on 03/31/2003 10:51:37 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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Hasn't India already been doing this?
5 posted on 03/31/2003 10:53:29 AM PST by lepton
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We should suggest India try using the UN for 12 years to resolve their problem.

By then, I would bet we have fixed it for them.
6 posted on 03/31/2003 10:53:48 AM PST by snooker
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To: swarthyguy
I agree with this, even though it may be sarcasm. India should take on Pakistan. That will make it easier for us, certainly. We can't be expected to carry the whole world on our shoulders.
7 posted on 03/31/2003 10:55:40 AM PST by Brilliant
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I don't know whether this was written tongue in cheek or not.

But if India really wants a Pakistani nuke rocket-mailed to New Delhi, then by all means they should pursue that course.
8 posted on 03/31/2003 10:57:40 AM PST by algol
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Well, make sure you take out Pakistan's nukes first. It could get ugly otherwise.

The way I see it, let's say the following happens:

1. We take out Iraq.
2. Iran gets overthrown or at least has so many problems at home that they stop exporting terror.
3. India takes out Pakistan.
4. North Korea collapses when the west stops propping it up.
5. We beef up the CIA, and tell it to do whatever is necessary to go after terrorist groups.

At that point, we could sign a treaty with the nuclear powers to have a policy in place to monitor all nuclear weapons. We'd then be reasonably safe from nuclear attacks from terrorists for at least the next generation.
9 posted on 03/31/2003 11:02:02 AM PST by Our man in washington
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To: swarthyguy
Correction: "an unelected dictator who possesses and uses weapons of mass destruction in contravention of cease fire agreements"
10 posted on 03/31/2003 11:02:32 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Wheat is Murder! (Tilling slaughters worms.....))
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To: Publius
To maintain a friendly Pakistan during the War on Terror, we'd condemn India.

However, if we thought that India could actually win and clean out that rat's nest of Islamist terrorism, we would look the other way.

11 posted on 03/31/2003 11:05:08 AM PST by Polybius
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Sounds good to me, sluggo ...

You guys fight it out over there. The winners will be allowed to eat the losers.

12 posted on 03/31/2003 11:05:50 AM PST by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsenspåånkængruppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
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To: Brilliant; algol
A little sarcasm, a little tongue in cheek, a little fit of pique at the constant calls for restraint from around the world, ( which India should've ignored last year and hit the Paks, despite Powell calling for restraint) and a real seriousness that India has to drop the UN charade and deal with Pak herself.
13 posted on 03/31/2003 11:07:30 AM PST by swarthyguy
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I'm sure the author thinks he's being clever, but this is just more anti-American gibberish. There would be nothing preemptive about an escalated Indo-Pak confrontation. They've been killing each other in Kashmir for years.

Their situation is much closer to the US/Soviet relationship in the Cold War. Preemptive attack would kill millions of their own, which is why they don't try it. The author can quip all he wants about just following the US lead, but he'd be laughing all the way to the funerals of a bunch of charred compatriots.

His real beef is revealed at the end, stating that the "new world order" is that the world does "what America orders". What pisses him off is that the U.S. can do what it pleases, regardless of world opinion. He should thank his lucky stars our inclinations are unique in their humanity, unlike those of our enemies. If we were Islamists, his Hindu ass would be reincarnating right about now....
14 posted on 03/31/2003 11:21:54 AM PST by Mr. Bird
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To: swarthyguy
You know, there are only so many lies that a writer can pack into a few paragraphs?!
I would like to say that the other 50 or so countries that the writer classifies as not worthy of mention or whatever......tell them they aren't in this with us. Tell the Kurds and the Iraqis that are fighting WITH our soldiers to free themselves from a man who puts citizens into plastic shredders feet first. Someone is listening, but not hearing, if that.
As for India and Pakistan....who cares? Until they mess with us, I could care less what they do to each other, but you mess with Uncle Sam, and we're gonna put a boot in your.......
We are the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, and we DO NOT, and WILL NOT, for as long as the People rule this country, ASK PERMISSION from the UN, or other countries to defend our FUTURE against EVIL forces. Long live the words of Samuel Adams, Patrick Henry and George W. Bush.


IMHO, further debate on an article of this nature is not only useless, but absurd considering the nature of the enemy and the goal of the US Admin.
15 posted on 03/31/2003 11:28:05 AM PST by TheOwl (Ummm.....wrong again........)
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Perhaps India should have regretted its' decision to ally itself with the Soviet Union over the West for 44 years (Thanks to the socialist Nehru). Then they would realize why the US allied itself with Pakistan.
16 posted on 03/31/2003 11:46:49 AM PST by LdSentinal
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I believe we are making a mistake. We should drop our objections. Instead we should embrace the American position and use it as the basis of our own national security policy. After all, as Donald Rumsfeld keeps suggesting, America is now the greatest power in the world and makes all the rules.

So, let’s stop protesting. Let’s just learn these new rules and apply them to our own national security — chiefly to our relations with Pakistan.

Go for it .... but don't ask us for help ...

17 posted on 03/31/2003 11:51:31 AM PST by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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Go for it .... but don't ask us for help ...

That can't be said of our policy! We have in fact been pressuring India to keep off our "staunch ally"!

Longstanding as this fued is, it's now a nuclear standoff. The irony is that an increasing degree of pakistan-based terrorism is being directed at America and Americans!

18 posted on 03/31/2003 12:23:13 PM PST by mikeIII
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Yap yap yap.

India should just do it before the radicals win all the provinces instead of 2. when its all of em it'll be too late.
19 posted on 03/31/2003 4:34:23 PM PST by Stopislamnow (Because tomorrow we'll all be dead and won't be able to)
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To: LdSentinal
It wasn't so much siding with the Soviets for ideological reasons as it was for safety. The Soviets were known to be ruthless, had no problem invading neighbors, and were enstranged with China (who India also considered a rival and threat). To top it off, America is on the other side of the world. India took the choice of self preservation, (and the logic "enemy of my enemy is my friend"). The U.S. aligned with Pakistan, and had good ties with (or at least better then India) China, The soviets had problems with China, and with India siding with the Soviets, had the soviets aligned against Pakistan too. In India's case, lets be honest, The U.S. does not go about invading or attacking countries unless they pose a threat to us, if a country disagrees with America, they are not going to be attacked, or suffer serious reprecussions, even during the cold war, and especially if that country is a democracy. However, if you ticked off the Soviets, and they were close enough, then they could and might just strike you.
20 posted on 03/31/2003 6:03:37 PM PST by Sonny M (War has never solved anything, except Nazism, Communism, slavery and the holocaust.)
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