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SARS survival rate higher than pneumonia
Toronto Star ^
| Mar. 29, 2003. 06:29 AM
| KAREN PALMER
Posted on 03/31/2003 8:46:18 AM PST by Maelstrom
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Panic can be averted.
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posted on
03/31/2003 8:46:19 AM PST
by
Maelstrom
To: Maelstrom
"I'd much sooner get SARS than get hit by lightning," said Dr. Lionel Mandeltrom"
Why do I not feel comforted by this comparison, I wonder?
2
posted on
03/31/2003 8:58:25 AM PST
by
Bahbah
(Pray for our Troops)
To: Maelstrom
I was just starting to think that maybe i should consider worrying about this. Good to know I was right to ignore. We're way to prone to panic.
3
posted on
03/31/2003 9:02:46 AM PST
by
discostu
(I have not yet begun to drink)
To: Bahbah
>"That's about a 5 per cent mortality rate, which is less than the mortality rate we see every week with hospital-acquired pneumonia," he said.
The comparison "I'd rather get SARS then hospital acquired pneumonia is not much more comforting.
To: Maelstrom
With SARS, there's a 95 to 98 per cent chance a person will survive the illness. "There are these steps that make it seem scary," he said, pointing to the quarantine. "You don't do that for a minor thing."
Catching an illness in the prime of life as easily as a cold and having a 1 in 20 chance of dying is plenty scary enough for me, thank you. The doctor who first reported the disease: DEAD!!! In no way SARS this be compared to pneumonia in a nursing home denizen. This doctor is providing us nothing but spin.
5
posted on
03/31/2003 9:04:46 AM PST
by
Plutarch
To: Maelstrom
I do not believe they have a handle on the mortality rate due to a lck of data regarding China.
I wait and see.
6
posted on
03/31/2003 9:07:20 AM PST
by
Cold Heat
(Negotiate!! .............(((Blam!.)))........... "Now who else wants to negotiate?")
Comment #7 Removed by Moderator
To: nopardons; bonesmccoy
Ping.
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posted on
03/31/2003 9:19:07 AM PST
by
malakhi
(OPENING DAY!!!)
To: wirestripper
China's reluctance to come clean is abominable, but the situation in Hong Kong is now to the stage that we can begin to see some patterns.
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Hong Kong SARS cases
Day |
Date |
New |
Cases |
Up/Day |
Up/Week |
Deaths |
% of cases |
% of 1 day |
% of 2 day |
% of 3 day |
% of 4 day |
% of 5 day |
% of 6 day |
% of week |
wed |
03/19 |
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150 |
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thu |
03/20 |
23 |
173 |
15.33% |
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Fri |
03/21 |
30 |
203 |
17.34% |
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Sat |
03/22 |
19 |
222 |
9.36% |
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Sun |
03/23 |
25 |
247 |
11.26% |
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Mon |
03/24 |
13 |
260 |
5.26% |
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Tue |
03/25 |
26 |
286 |
10.00% |
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Wed |
03/26 |
30 |
316 |
10.49% |
110.67% |
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Thu |
03/27 |
51 |
367 |
16.14% |
112.14% |
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Fri |
03/28 |
58 |
425 |
15.80% |
109.36% |
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Sat |
03/29 |
45 |
470 |
10.59% |
111.71% |
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Sun |
03/30 |
60 |
530 |
12.77% |
114.57% |
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Mon |
03/31 |
92 |
622 |
17.36% |
139.23% |
15 |
2% |
3% |
3% |
4% |
4% |
5% |
5% |
6% |
Averages |
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12.64% |
116.28% |
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posted on
03/31/2003 9:21:38 AM PST
by
per loin
To: Maelstrom
This is disinformation. Toronto has locked their hospital doors to all patients except medical staff and close relatives. Other people with SARS symptoms are urged to lock themselves into their homes. There are no medical personel available who will consider house calls.
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posted on
03/31/2003 9:22:03 AM PST
by
ex-Texan
(primates capitulards toujours en quete de fromage!)
To: Maelstrom
Aw geez, that's no fun.
PANIC! RUN! HIDE! HOLD YOUR BREATH!
Now that's fun.
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posted on
03/31/2003 9:23:08 AM PST
by
Wolfie
To: per loin
Interesting data. It tells me that it is too early to get a handle on rates. looks like the increased % per day is not stable at all.
12
posted on
03/31/2003 9:25:50 AM PST
by
Cold Heat
(Negotiate!! .............(((Blam!.)))........... "Now who else wants to negotiate?")
To: wirestripper
Yes. It is still at the stage where a flash cluster can significantly skew the numbers. But despite the instability of the increase %, we do see that it has consistantly remained above 10% increase per day for a week now.
Of course, at this stage we have no idea of how long that pattern might hold, but if it continues for long, I'd expect panic flight from Hong Kong within a short time. Any rumors on the possible coming shutdown of outbound flights will accelerate such panic.
I note that an editorial in today's Wall Street Journal calls for a shutdown of all flights from China, including Hong Kong, to the USA.
13
posted on
03/31/2003 9:34:51 AM PST
by
per loin
To: discostu
I was just starting to think that maybe i should consider worrying about this.Me too. I was going to stock up on canned goods, bottled water, duct tape, and buy a gun--then I realized I was preparing for the wrong catastrophe.
14
posted on
03/31/2003 9:36:27 AM PST
by
beaversmom
(After the Axis of Evil on to the Axis of Weasels)
To: per loin
Thank you so much for the charts. They are great!
To: CathyRyan
They help me to see the pattern of what is happening. I'm happy to share them, if they are of use to anyone.
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posted on
03/31/2003 9:45:28 AM PST
by
per loin
To: Maelstrom
SARS survival rate higher than pneumonia
Panic, overkill fuel public fears about disease
The title of Karen Palmer's article should actually be.....
"SARS survival rate higher than pneumonia
Panic, overkill and
reality fuel public fears about disease."
SARS spreads to Sick Kids Hospital
To: ex-Texan
Keep your eyes open and don't be lulled into a panic unnecessarily.
As a fellow Freeper, that's all I ask.
18
posted on
03/31/2003 11:05:19 AM PST
by
Maelstrom
(To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
To: Eric Cassano
There was a report that three kids from a school down the street from the hospital had contracted SARS. Their path home passed the hospital grounds. Perhaps these are the kids now hospitalized?
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posted on
03/31/2003 11:26:48 AM PST
by
per loin
To: per loin
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