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The U.S. Gets The Oil by International Law
Congreational Record Page S4507 | 27 March 2003 | Congreational Record

Posted on 03/30/2003 11:12:32 AM PST by Suck My AR-16

[Congressional Record: March 27, 2003 (Senate)]
[Page S4507]
From the Congressional Record Online via GPO Access [wais.access.gpo.gov]
[DOCID:cr27mr03-161]

INTERNATIONAL LAW REGARDING OCCUPIED IRAQ

Mr. GRASSLEY. Mr. President, next week we are going to have a
supplemental appropriations bill of at least $75 billion before the
Congress of the United States for the funding necessary for the
military action in Iraq, at least for the early part of that action,
which number could not have been decided when we passed the
appropriations bills in January because at that point there would not
have been any military action. I raise this issue now in conjunction
with what there is in international law in regard to a victorious power
in a nation, after the war is done, of what can be used of the natural
resources of a country for the victorious country
to administer the
nation as well as to rebuild that nation.

The reason I raise these points about international law is because
there is very clear international law about what a victorious nation
can do and cannot do in regard to the resources of the defeated nation.
I raise this issue at this point because I want to make sure the
American taxpayers are not saddled with any of the costs of rebuilding
Iraq that can be legitimately paid for, under international law, out of
the resources of Iraq.


After the first full week of the conflict, the allied forces have
pushed well into the country, liberating Iraqi populations across
western and southern Iraq. These developments, then, raise an issue
that must be explored and discussed before we obligate taxpayers' money
to rebuilding Iraq; that is, with regard to the United States and
allied occupation of Iraq, what does international law tell us? What
does international law dictate with regard to our rights as the
occupying power to administer Iraq's oil resources and our obligations
to the citizens of Iraq?

The Hague Convention of 1907 and the Geneva Convention provide the
basis for international law with regard to the obligations and rights
of an occupying power. They provide specific guidelines for
administering the resources of the occupied territory and the
obligations of the occupying power to provide for the welfare and the
safety of the occupied people.

With regard to the rights of an occupying power to use public
property and resources, article 53 of Hague regulations of 1907
provides that an occupying power can only take possession of state-
owned property, and any seizure of private property must be restored
and compensation provided when peace is made.

Further, article 55 provides:

The occupying State shall only be regarded as administrator
and usufructuary of the public buildings, real property,
forests and agricultural works belonging to the hostile
State.

The rules of usufruct provide a tenant--in this case it would be the
United States or the coalition forces--the right to use and enjoy the
profits of property owned by Iraq, as long as the property is not
damaged or altered in any way.
In addition, the allied forces may use
the public assets only for the benefit of Iraq and the Iraqi people,
and to defray the costs of administration.
Secretary Powell recently reaffirmed this right. When discussing the
issue of oilfields, he stated:

You can be sure that they [meaning the oilfields] would be
protected and the revenue generated from any such oil fields
would be used in accordance with international law and to the
benefit of the Iraqi people.

The occupying power may also take possession of public movable
property only if such property can be directly or indirectly used for
military operations. Clearly, Iraq's oil reserves are susceptible to
military use and thereby subject to seizure by U.S. military forces
under the laws of war to restore Iraq.


In addition, the oil produced from Iraqi wells may be considered
similar to the produce of public land which, under article 55, may be
appropriated by the occupying power.


With regard to the obligations of the occupying power, article 43 of
Hague regulations of 1907 state:

The authority of the legitimate power, having actually
passed into the hands of the occupant, the latter shall take
steps in his power to restore and ensure, as far as possible,
public order and safety.

The Geneva Convention, relevant to the protection of civilian persons
in time of war, states that the occupying power is also responsible for
establishing a direct system of administration and maintaining the
public order.

The key restriction to the use of Iraq's oil is that the proceeds are
limited to occupation purposes, which includes measures taken in the
furtherance of fulfilling that obligation that I just read under
article 43, to reestablish peace and order to Iraq. Clearly,
international law provides that the United States is entitled to use
the money from oil sales
to pay for such obligations as long as food
and water, health care, roads and bridges, schools and airports, as
examples.

Once a viable Iraqi government is established, the oilfields must be
returned to Iraq in a reasonable condition.

One final issue for debate will be the role of the U.N. in the
reconstruction and administration of Iraq. For example, what will
remain of the United Nations Oil For Food Program in post-Saddam Iraq?
Given the U.N.'s inability to fulfill its obligations with regard to
enforcing Security Council Resolution 1441, it is unclear whether the
U.N. will be relevant at all in the reconstruction efforts of Iraq.

It is my hope that the U.N. will follow the lead of the United
States, Britain, and the other 40 or more allies currently in Iraq
enforcing the U.N. resolutions. After all, it must be made very clear
that the resources of Iraq will finally be available for the use of the
Iraqi people, for the betterment of those same people.

For far too long, we know the prisoners of Saddam's regime have been
deprived of their country's riches and forced to survive as peasants.
While the responsibility for providing for the welfare of the Iraqi
people belonged to Saddam Hussein, he was, as we know, more interested
in spending it on himself in the form of elaborate palaces and in the
pursuit of weapons of mass destruction.

The Iraqi people will finally share in the wealth of their country
that has always belonged to them rather than Saddam sharing it with his
family and the cronies of his brutal regime.

I hope the Congress will take into consideration the rights the
taxpayers of the United States have under this Geneva Convention, to
make sure the resources for the rebuilding of Iraq come from Iraqi
natural resources and not from the American taxpayers.
That should be
fully taken into consideration, as some of the money we appropriate
next week will probably be used for that purpose of at first
establishing administration in Iraq.
I yield the floor.

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KEYWORDS: grassley; oil; war; warlist
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To: Viva Le Dissention
When their "decisions" effect MY life, I sure will have a say.
41 posted on 03/30/2003 12:28:24 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: monkeywrench
By the way, why are you so sure you know what's best for you, since you don't think other human beings are capable of deciding that?
42 posted on 03/30/2003 12:30:24 PM PST by Viva Le Dissention
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To: Viva Le Dissention; All
It will be at least five years before Iraq is producing oil at full capacity.
We will not be taking anything from them. The money will be used for food,housing, infrastructure aka the general welfare of the Iraqi people.
This includes the cost of policing. One thing I have seen from our President is that he keeps his word, he knows a "working" Iraq will be good for the region, and the rest of the free world.

One other point that should be clearly made, the Iraqi people will see benefits they never dreamed were possible under Saddam. They will see these benefits almost immediately.
43 posted on 03/30/2003 12:32:00 PM PST by Crusader21stCentury
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To: Viva Le Dissention
Right...heck, Israel is having such great luck with similar policies.

Israeli are also fighting with one hand behind their back, @ the behest of US Pol...your statement is BS.

44 posted on 03/30/2003 12:36:20 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because your paranoid,doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. :)
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To: Crusader21stCentury
the Iraqi people will see benefits they never dreamed were possible under Saddam. They will see these benefits almost immediately.

I see perfectly well what you are saying, but that entirely misses the point. Yeah, they *might* be better off if the United States runs the show after Saddam is gone, they *might* have better and newer cities, but it doesn't matter. What you are arguing, and what Mr. Wrench also argues, is that the ends justify the means, and as a rational human being, I cannot accept such an argument in this situation.

45 posted on 03/30/2003 12:36:37 PM PST by Viva Le Dissention
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To: Viva Le Dissention
You sound as "rational" as sadam. Making place in the international forum for more terrorists is insane. You must work at the un.
46 posted on 03/30/2003 12:43:09 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: Viva Le Dissention
Sure, let's just leave a power vacuum and let the Iraqi people wade through anarchy towards their future. Sounds like plan to me!
47 posted on 03/30/2003 12:45:22 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Suck My AR-16
Russia's refusal to play ball and the fall of Iraq will kill OPEC. Like a disease with no cure, OPEC has been affecting adversely the free market for crude since 1973.

Each time the shieks meet in Vienna and decide on production quotas, billions of dollars flow out of the coffers of petroleum using countries, that is, until the inevitable "leaks" by one country or other, and the price stabilizes again. The damage to the market however, is not limited to that provided by quotas. The uncertainty inserted into the market by OPEC's shenanigans severely impairs the inflow of risk capital and causes the futures markets to underserve entry into the market at every level of distribution; extraction, shipping, storage, refining, and wholesale and retail activities are all affected adversely.

Owing to the sanctions and outdated extraction technology, in recent years Iraq has been pumping only about 30% of what it could be pumping. As these obstacles are removed and OPEC's meetings become void of effect, a degree of certainty will return to the world petroleum market, and the effect on its capital structures will cause the price at the pump to plunge to real levels not seen in decades. The world economies will become fuel injected and the world's largest petroleum user will experience the turbocharging of its economic engine, a fitting consequence to all of this since it was our economy which was attacked to start this whole sequence of events.

48 posted on 03/30/2003 12:47:28 PM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: Viva Le Dissention
they *might* have better and newer cities, but it doesn't matter.

No I think you are missing the point.
The ends do justify the means. We and the Brits and Aussies are probably the only Nations capable of accomplishing this tremendous task.
Within two years you will see Iraqi elections and our task will still continue but in a less intrusive way.
Are not the Afghanis better off today? Maybe you should ask some of the young Afghani children who are going to school learning Mathematics instead of how to clean and load an AK-47.
49 posted on 03/30/2003 12:48:19 PM PST by Crusader21stCentury
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To: Viva Le Dissention
pays
50 posted on 03/30/2003 12:51:10 PM PST by ALS
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To: Viva Le Dissention
Just wait until we do this in Saudi Arabia.

It's going to be a lot of fun !!!!!

Money, Money, Money !!!!

51 posted on 03/30/2003 12:51:54 PM PST by happygrl
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To: Suck My AR-16
LOL! What ignorance!

Your publik education apparently failed in your case.

You talk like a commie.

52 posted on 03/30/2003 1:13:25 PM PST by Cold Heat (Negotiate!! Blam! "Now who else wants to negotiate?")
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To: Viva Le Dissention
However, I don't agree that it is our right to steal their resources and use that money how we think is best for them.

It would be my hope that we would administer (for a fairly short time) their resources towards rebuilding the infrastructure damaged in the war - roads, power plants, water treatment plants, etc. so they could function as a developed country again, then let them decide on the rest.

Personally, I think once infrastructure is built, all citizen's ought to be given shares in the oil industry that they can sell, hold, get dividends from as they choose. In my opinion that would be better than allowing government to continue to own the means of production. But, if the Iraqi people (not just the opposition leadership) preferred a different structure, that would be fine with me as well.

53 posted on 03/30/2003 1:13:38 PM PST by Kay Ludlow
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To: ShadowAce
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The point was lost on you wasn't it? Since they did NOT pay for the rebuilding of the WTC, nor
pay the families of the people who were killed, they get to pay, instead, for the rebuilding of
their country."

I think you are a LOT confused. Iraq and Saddam had nothing to do with the bombing of the WTC...That was another CIA created and backed terrorist group--led by Usoma Bin Ladin-to fight the USSR for us.

Reagen and Bush sr. are the ones who backed, funded and supplied Saddam with weapons of mass distruction to use against Iran.

You need to get our CIA created and backed despots and the actions they take against us when they turn on us strait.
54 posted on 03/30/2003 1:31:01 PM PST by Sammysun
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To: Suck My AR-16
There is no "our". Private citizens, yes even rich ones, exchange property according to commercial law.
That's how capitalism works. "Our" land, meaning government controlled land
is in keeping for Welfare reasons. Electricity, transportation, resources, etc. The remainder is owned
by private citizens who can do most anything they damn well please. Regardless how wealthy they are.
See. That's how capitalism works.
55 posted on 03/30/2003 2:22:06 PM PST by nanomid
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To: wayoverontheright
Re; Russia ....
I see, it IS about OIL !. What I want an answer on then, is why the OIL from Alaska goes to Asia not to the "States"? Also, why are most drilled wells in Texas and Oklahoma capped off ? Seems we can choke the cartel a little and relieve the problem.

Now that the US military is building the largest military base since Vietnam in Kosovo (Camp Bondsteel)(while closing bases in the USA) to protect the OIL that will supply Europe and West Communists states and the military will ring Afghanistan with hundreds of millions of dollars worth of border security to protect the pipelines across Afghanistan, the choke you allude to of OPEC seems to be all about OIL and Money and the threat of the Euro becoming the base of exchange.

Why didn't the Willing Coalition just say that ? Why all the talk of Iraq Freedom, WMD and all that ?

56 posted on 03/30/2003 2:54:35 PM PST by Suck My AR-16
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To: wirestripper
Commie ? Hardly. When the hypocrisy says "the oil belongs to the people of Iraq" and we know they will never see it for themselves, it is appropriate to connect it to our own situation in the USA. The corporate choke hold on the "people" and the bastions of government is appalling.
57 posted on 03/30/2003 3:07:24 PM PST by Suck My AR-16
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To: gaucho
Agreed. Oil money should be made available to us to offset the costs of this war, and should be used to pay for the rebuilding of the Iraqui infrastructure.

Part of me feels like we should just take their damned oil wells as spoils of war. It's the least they can do for us for liberating them.
58 posted on 03/30/2003 4:22:08 PM PST by Henrietta
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To: Kay Ludlow
"We are spending our money providing them with that opportunity."

And we should be repaid, with interest.
59 posted on 03/30/2003 4:23:11 PM PST by Henrietta
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To: Viva Le Dissention
"My opinion of the war aside, if it is the right of the Iraqi people to determine their own destiny, which I think it is, then it is their right to use their resources however they choose to rebuild their land."

Sure, after they repay us for the cost of this war. Had they taken care of the tyrant Saddam themselves, we wouldn't have had to come into their country for our own self-defense. But they allowed Saddam and his terrorist buddies to use their oil to fund a jihad against us, so now they gotta pay.

They owe us, big time.
60 posted on 03/30/2003 4:25:16 PM PST by Henrietta
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