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Saddam's BodyGuard not with Saddam
Fox News

Posted on 03/29/2003 6:56:58 PM PST by microgood

Fox has reported twice since I have been watching that intelligence experts are perplexed by the fact that Saddam's BodyGuard that has not left his side for 15 years is not at Saddam's side, but with the Defense and Information Ministers in a Press Conference. Interesting.


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: bodyguard; decapitation; iraq; iraqifreedom; saddamdeathwatch; topplesaddam; war; warlist
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To: brigette

61 posted on 03/29/2003 7:44:03 PM PST by Atticus
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To: concerned about politics
Interesting theory that S has been dead for years. Would Dan Rather have noticed? Or the 234987 CIA and FBI analysts who went over that tape with a fine-tooth comb to match it to previous tapes? When that first tape of Saddam after initial strike on the bunker was released, Rather looked very dubious..."if it is Saddam..." he said.

Here's my hit on this:

We killed one of Saddam's sons in that first strike. Uday, probably. Saddam was hurt, but not so disabled that he could not make his escape through tunnels to the river, where small seaplzne got him out of Iraq under the radar. He is now holed up in the rugged Anti-Lebanon mountain range between Lebanon and Syria, long home of ferocious tribes and current home of Hezballah terrorists. He will soon, if he h as not already, fly by private plane to Switzerland where in a small pirvate hospital high in the Alps he will undergo plastic surgery and rejuvenation therapy including but not limited to human growth hormone shots, shark cartilage, and hormones. He will emerge as Michael Jackson. No, scratch the Jackson part.

After murdering the doctors and blowing up the clinic, he will reemerge next year as the new savior of the Arab world, the long-awaited antiChrist who will attempt to lead the Muslim takeover of the world. The UN is already at work on the details. With billions of bucks salted away in banks worldwide, Saddam is not without cohorts.

62 posted on 03/29/2003 7:45:38 PM PST by PoisedWoman (Fed up with the liberal media)
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To: microgood
Well if you think about it, if this bodyguard never leaves Saddam's side, then wouldn't he have been taken out as well?
63 posted on 03/29/2003 7:46:26 PM PST by SamAdams76 (California wine beats French wine in blind taste tests. Boycott French wine.)
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To: All
RE #56

The bodyguard's story came out around the time the shuttle broke up. It may have been overlooked by many people due to the shuttle Columbia.
64 posted on 03/29/2003 7:46:32 PM PST by stlnative
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To: brigette
the guy swimming is one of the doubles. on 48 hours, they had an interview with the guy who became a double for one of his sons. the plastic surgery that the guy had was amazing, this is not some comic book double operation that iraq does. during the interview, they showed the video of the swimming saddam. he is a double because he lacks a tatoo on his left shoulder, according to the double for one of his sons who commented on the video.
65 posted on 03/29/2003 7:48:51 PM PST by oceanview
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To: All
MSNBC tonight had an interview with an iraqi who came to the US after the 91 war. His brother is with the marines there now. He made a comment when asked about the bodyguard, and said saddam often did switch bodyguards every couple days AND he thought that Saddam is not only alive, but probably , by traveling through the underground bunker system, in a Palace just outside Baghdad. *shrug*

Who knows.
66 posted on 03/29/2003 7:53:35 PM PST by bart99
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To: JustinV
He does have more than one bodyguard that he trusts (but very few), but the one the US is claiming to have been by his side for 15 years is the one that escaped to Israel. Something is just not panning out, maybe the media has it all wrong or they forgot about the one who escaped to Israel.

Maybe another one of his bodyguards couped and that is how we found out Saddam would be in that bunker. Something is not right... is the bodyguard shown with Defense Minister there for a reason? (maybe he is working with us and appeared in front of the camera to send a message to the USA that Saddam is dead - tinfoil time I know, but why would he appear behind the defense minister all of sudden?)
67 posted on 03/29/2003 7:53:35 PM PST by stlnative
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To: Maigret
I do believe Hussein and sons are with the worms :)

I went to the store for a 12 pack and lottery ticket and on talk radio here in Dallas 570 a show was on about predictions.
Some guy was talking about how he had predicted an earthquake in California (big deal)and then he went on talking about his newletter and how some 20,000 take in 14 countries, anyway he goes on about some astrologer who predicted 6 months ago that March 22,23 and 24 would be Iraq's low point.

The guy with the newsletter then said the astrologer looked at Saddam's chart at the exact moment the two 5K bunker buster bombs were dropped and she is 99.9% sure that Saddam is dead.

On the other hand the moment I heard the news I felt Saddam was dead and then when we 'paused' the war I felt that maybe Washington was waiting for confirmation.

The crazy part is that the host of the show said that 30 minutes ago they had a report that Saddam maybe dead

Call me crazy, cause I am but I can't find any mention on any new service.

68 posted on 03/29/2003 7:53:48 PM PST by LittleRedRooster
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To: PoisedWoman
Escaped on a seaplzne? Wow, this is hugh! ;-)
69 posted on 03/29/2003 7:55:37 PM PST by bluecollarman
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To: SamAdams76
Well if you think about it, if this bodyguard never leaves Saddam's side, then wouldn't he have been taken out as well?

Dam*, talk about a precision strike.

70 posted on 03/29/2003 7:55:45 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: brigette
I do believe that he is dead - but I am assuming that we know exactly what his status is. So if he is dead, then is there a good reason for us to keep it quiet?
71 posted on 03/29/2003 7:56:56 PM PST by JustinV
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To: brigette
I vaguely recall, thanks for the reminder. Hope we got some good information from the lookalike bodyguard.

However, this guy (not the lookalike) is seen in many photos from over the years, always over his shoulder.

My inclination is to assume that Saddam is alive, until there is OVERWHELMING evidence otherwise. (I'd like to think that he did leave us on that first night, but let's be cautious.)

The videos released since the war started seem to indicate that Saddam is NOT around (no specific dates mentioned, no newspaper headlines, etc.) Again, caution would say that this is his way of obscuring to us that he made it out alive.
72 posted on 03/29/2003 7:58:14 PM PST by RightOnGOP
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To: SamAdams76
The bodyguard has to sleep. I would imagine he sleeps when Saddam sleeps; but not in the same room. He can't be very effective if he's asleep. We already know no other military forces are allowed in Baghdad after dark due to coup attempts. He only allows his most trusted in. He's safest at night...or so he thought.
73 posted on 03/29/2003 8:01:38 PM PST by Benjamin Dover
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To: JustinV
Yes... I also believe that we know (USA) that he truly is dead. I think that we are keeping quiet so that can clean up the mess in Iraq, before the world starts crying that we need to stop since Saddam is dead (if we announce it). Saddam is just part of the problem... we have to wipe out his true followers also.

I personally think he is dead, along with both sons... I am about 99% sure in my own mind, and I think the little things we see and don't see daily confirms it.
74 posted on 03/29/2003 8:02:43 PM PST by stlnative
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To: brigette
I was listening to the Information Ministers press briefing this morning. I found it hilarious that he would list some as 'dead' while others were 'martyed' LOL!!
I wonder how many forced martydom's the US military has created over the past week?
75 posted on 03/29/2003 8:05:27 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: JustinV
well of course we would have to keep it quiet. can you imagine world and public opinion if we proceeded with the war after having announced we killed him and the leadership with the first strike of the war.

how do you know someone is dead, if neither side has an interest in confirming it?
76 posted on 03/29/2003 8:07:01 PM PST by oceanview
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To: LittleRedRooster
I think Saddam is dead. The fact that the bodyguard is standing behind the defense minister and information minister is very interesting. I noticed a bit of tension between the two ministers.

Wasn't it in the middle of the night when the bomb hit the bunker on the first day of the war? Than Saddam would have been in bed. It is very doubtful that the bodyguard would have been in bed with him and probably would have been outside his quarters or suite.

The bombers may have been able to pinpoint the exact room arrangement, even the placement of Saddam's bed. Could have happened.

77 posted on 03/29/2003 8:07:30 PM PST by Lauratealeaf (God Bless Our Troops and President George W. Bush)
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To: bluecollarman
Wow, this is hugh! ;-)

You're probably right. He'll show pictures of Huge Grant to his plastic surgeons and ask for a lookalike job.

78 posted on 03/29/2003 8:07:48 PM PST by PoisedWoman (Fed up with the liberal media)
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To: DoughtyOne
I have had this stupid little thought nagging at me for the past week or so.

Suppose Saddam planned his own "death" by forcing someone to rat on him, then wasn't even there when the decapitation attack happened. Only a double was there.

Meanwhile, he's not even in Iraq anymore. Where is he? Heck, I don't know. Like I said, this stupid thought keeps haunting me.

79 posted on 03/29/2003 8:08:00 PM PST by savedbygrace
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To: brigette
Sadamm is not the only evil we must deal with. He's only the leader. Those who follow him allow him to lead. They could wipe him out any time they wished.

I suspect that one or both of his sons may be as powerful if not more powerful than he is. Look at the relationship between WJC and Hillary.... Who really had the power and how did she get/use it?

We need to wipe out the entire group. One dies and another takes over.
80 posted on 03/29/2003 8:10:48 PM PST by hoosiermama (Prayers for all)
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