Moynihan Myths

3.29.03 | Mia T

[F.J. Mitchell]

" Conservatives don't do Wellstone Funerals."

THe Wellstone funeral was a case of cannablism-liberals feasting upon their own as is their way, for political gain. Laying the truth of the Moynihan mystic out there beside the pompous praise that will surely be heaped upon him by the phonies from both sides of the political spectrum, is hardly kicking his corpse or pissing on his grave.

Let's leave Reagan out of this little discussion. The left has never given him credit for his accomplishments while he is living, and they will surely in any way they can, strive to deny him his honorable place in history after he passes.

No Conservative will whine if the anti-Reagan leftinaughts protest at his memorial, just as long as they stick to the truth.

[YaYa123]

Hi Diddle, We all got opinions, and just for the record, I don't think Mia is dancing on Moynihan's grave, far from it. I think she's establishing a record, and more importantly for newcomers, connecting the historical dots.

I love it when Mia uses her many skills to jog my addled brain and remind me of how we got to where we are. I remember Lieberman taking kudos, even got to run for VP because of his Smoke and Mirrors Holy Joe speech on the senate floor.

And I remember Hillary in her black pants suit up at Moynihan's farm. For this alone, Moynihan should be excoriated...he's the only person on the planet who could have prevented Hillary from becoming senator.

I say, "Thanks Mia" for setting the record straight at this very moment. Why wait to let the record become blurred. Right now is when people are hearing "Moynihan" in the news, now is when the truth needs to come out. But hey...if Mia had sung a song of celebration at the old man's death, or led us in rowdy cheers, a la Wellstone, I'd be with you. But our grand graphic artist Mia would never do such a thing.

And frankly, I needed a respite from the war!

[hosepipe]

IF-->> Monihan were smart he would'nt be a democrat...
He was a (unrepentant)democrat therefore... Duuh!..

There are three words >NOT< found in the American Constitution; Democracy, Democrat, Democratic By design, it's not an ommision. The founding fathers knew these words and deemed not to include them. If you don't know why, then you are politically naieve and subject to the lies of dumbocrats, as they try ever harder to make the U.S. a democracy, and its working

It's not easy to take the democrat out of the party BUT it is damned near impossible to take the democrat out of the democrat. All you end up with is a RINO{Republican in NAME only}

Actually anybody that thinks democrat is a benign word presupposes.....gross ignorance...

[Mia T]

Moynihan was probably proud to master something as confounding as a VCR, but, was he also proud of his dual role in resurrecting the clintons, I wonder...

[uncbob]

Great job MIAT
I am tired of all the cannonizing of the blowhard that is being printed
Guy was a hypocrit who voted for every left wing socail program that came down the pike
Great statesman my butt
He also wanted to tax ammunition out of existenece
Half the time on TV he was incoherent

Ha and Byrd made a good pair BOTH overrated blowhards who the press idolized

[F.J. Mitchell]

You make a point that some of us had not thought of, the abuse of Elian by Clinton's Ghestapo Chief, may have had more to do with defeating Gore, than we can imagine.

Elian Gonzales should be made an honorary citizen of the USA, and rescued from the Peoples slave state of Cuba immediately.

[Mia T]

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[nwrep]

Mia T, I am with you. Thank you for your post.

[Scenic Sounds]

The impeachment "trial" brings up such painful memories.

[F.J. Mitchell]

Either way, as a liberal democrat will always do -he put his loyalty to the party far above what is right and good for the country.

[kylaka]

There were by some counts as many as 50,000 Cuban Americans who admit Bush got their vote, not Gore, because of the position the Clinton administration took on Elian, even though Gore took no official position for or against.

It was a 537 vote win... or a 49,463 vote loss for Bush.

[RobFromGa]

good job Mia.

This man, like Clinton (both), was amazingly talented. And brilliant.

Talent and Brilliance in the hands of scoundrels are lethal weapons. I prefer my scoundrels to be normal average Americans-- they do less damage.

[Vets_Husband_and_Wife]

I have to agree with Diddle E. Squat on this one. I think conservatives are ABOVE democrats when it comes to doing the right thing. Personally, I don't think bashing a man who has just died is right. It doesn't matter that I disagreed with his political ideologies or not. It is just "unseemlingly".. gives me a creepy feeling.

I didn't agree with how the Dems handled the funeral of the late Sen. Wellstone. I spoke out vehemently about how inappropriate that was. This is too. I'm sorry,.. but thats how I feel.

I appreciate all your work Mia, your work is normally just awesome.. but since this is so public a display against a man who just lost his life.. I have to publicly disagree with it.

FRegards, Vets

[Arthur McGowan]

Everything you say applies also to his steadfast support of abortion. He knew precisely what he was doing. In fact, he's the only politician I know of who actually discussed his own cynicism about abortion with a reporter. Most pro-abortion Catholic politicians simply attempt to float above their cynicism as though it were a non-issue.

Or, they attempt, like Mario Cuomo, to pretend that their cynicism is actually a sign of a much deeper understanding of the Catholic Faith than that Polish Peasant in Rome has to struggle through life with.

I read an interview with him a good 20 years ago, in which Moynihan made a play on words about it. The old expression for what is now called a "practicing Catholic" was "practical Catholic." That's what the membership requirement for the Knights of Columbus was, for instance. Moynihan made a little joke about those words--"as a 'practical Catholic'" who wants to remain in the Senate, I have to support abortion. I think your guess that his drinking was at least in part a refuge from his conscience is dead on.

[Mia T]

"De mortuis nil nisi bonum."

Close...but not quite what I was looking for. ;)

The body was still warm when hillary began her eulogizing revisionism. I was certain the Romans had something to say about this, but couldn't find anything...

[F.J. Mitchell]

If only other Americans appreciated the USA as do a large majority of those Cuban Americans. If our founding Fathers could visit the country today, they would probably feel comfortable among the Cuban American Community, more than anywhere else.

God bless them all.

[bmwcyle]

I would agree with you but we are at war with enemies foreign and domestic. I say this set the record strait with truth. Truth is fair in war and the liberals have been at war with us since the election.

[WFTR]

If we are going to survive as a nation, we have to understand the truth about where we are and how we arrived here. Senator Moyhihan is a hypocrite who devoted a public career to understanding the damage that his party was doing but continuing to support that damage anyway. At a time when everyone is paying attention, we should be armed with the facts to explain why we don't rush to eulogize him. I wouldn't support protesting his funeral. I wouldn't support holding a public rally to vent all of this information at this time. However, Free Republic is a place where we talk about the truth, and Mia is just presenting a little more truth that we need to remember.

WFTR
Bill

[Cold Heat]

I must say that I agree with you. The timing is not appropriate no matter how true the words may be. The Senator has done some impressive things in his life. (Clinton aside)

Criticism like this should be leveled at a live person, not during the mourning and burial process.

This lacks tact.

[gcruse]

Moynihan had a lot of good qualities. You are coming off as snotty and small.